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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
The stubborn North look what happened to the Stark family
I'm the new king of the north[/QUOTE]

Tell you the Night King has the right idea
Freeze the lot of us
Easier to control the blue sheep plus they won’t get so anxious

love the idea of Boris getting eaten by white walkers while trying to hold the door
 
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So the Tory contenders committed to an investigation into Tory Islamaphobia on basis of question from Abdullah from Bristol,
deputy head of two failing schools,
Tweeter of anti-semitic memes ,
who says girls should never be alone with males.

That’s Tory leadership for you.
 
Home Office 'loses' 750 foreign criminals including rapists and killers on the run to dodge deportation
  • More than 700 offenders from overseas have vanished after being released
  • Figures show that 49,381 foreign nationals disappeared as of last September
  • A senior immigration source gave a grim assessment of ever catching them
By Mark Hookham For The Mail On Sunday
Published: 09:11 AEST, 16 June 2019 | Updated: 09:20 AEST, 16 June 2019
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Tory leadership hopeful Sajid Javid is facing criticism over the Home Office’s failure to find hundreds of foreign criminals who have gone on the run to dodge deportation.
Figures obtained by The Mail on Sunday reveal 747 offenders from overseas, including convicted rapists and killers, have vanished after being released into the community.
A senior immigration source last night gave a grim assessment of the likelihood of the fugitives ever being caught.
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In another extraordinary case, a convicted sex attacker facing deportation managed to escape from a prison van. Kamil Malag, 36, escaped as he was being taken to Hewell Grange prison in Redditch after an appeal hearing
‘It’s not usually something we like to publish, but once you vanish you will only get caught by luck,’ he admitted. ‘There are no resources any more.’
Foreign citizens – including asylum seekers, those caught entering the UK unlawfully and those overstaying their visa – are meant to report regularly to immigration centres or police stations if there are potential grounds to deport them.
But the figures, released under Freedom of Information laws, reveal that as of last September, 49,381 foreign nationals have disappeared.
Alarmingly, an additional 747 foreign criminals – 681 men and 66 women – have also gone missing. They are believed to include Hektor Mahmutaj, a convicted killer on Interpol’s most-wanted list who disappeared while the Government was trying to extradite him.
 
Well, in April Farage said that the Brexit Party’s policies were identical to UKIP’s, but the personnel were ‘very different’.

But I agree that nobody voted for them on any other issue than getting Brexit done, and this doesn’t make Brexit Party voters, to date, right or any other wing.

The only other thing that they have been keen to talk about is their disdain for ‘career politicians’. What the hell Farage and Widdicombe are other than career politicians is beyond me.

I think he meant identical to their policies when he was there.
Since he left UKIP they have lurched towards the BNP imo.
 
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I think he meant identical to their policies when he was there.
Since he left UKIP they have lurched towards the BNP imo.
It’s actually rather reassuring that since they revealed their true colours and nutter tendencies support for UKIP has collapsed, and that this started even before Farage wandered in with his new mob.
 
Come on Stroller, don’t become one of those twats who call everyone on the right a ‘nazi’ or ‘fascist’.

Save it for the real ‘far right’ like Combat 18, LOSG and National Action
Only in the same way that Corbyn and McDonnell are Marxist-Leninists - that is their gut instinct, it’s not what their party campaigns on. Voting for Labour doesn’t make you a commie.

Don't become that person?

Lol.

Sigh.

I didn't say that UKIP, or its clone the Brexit Party, were Nazi, or Fascist parties did I? I said that they were far right, which I stand by. This is getting a little like having to constantly explain that my contention that Brexit was won on a racist campaign conducted by Farage doesn't mean that I'm calling every Leave voter a racist. Voting for the Brexit Party doesn't necessarily mean that you have far right tendencies. You are just voting for a party that does.
 
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Sigh.

I didn't say that UKIP, or its clone the Brexit Party, were Nazi, or Fascist parties did I? I said that they were far right, which I stand by. This is getting a little like having to constantly explain that my contention that Brexit was won on a racist campaign conducted by Farage doesn't mean that I'm calling every Leave voter a racist. Voting for the Brexit Party doesn't necessarily mean that you have far right tendencies. You are just voting for a party that does.

Sigh......you really couldn’t call the Brexit Party by any way, shape or form ‘far-right’ Strolls......come on now mate, be sensible

Sigh again for effect :)
 
I'm the new king of the north

Tell you the Night King has the right idea
Freeze the lot of us
Easier to control the blue sheep plus they won’t get so anxious

love the idea of Boris getting eaten by white walkers while trying to hold the door[/QUOTE]

F*ck me, you're really out with the fairies tonight...<laugh>
 



Sigh.

I didn't say that UKIP, or its clone the Brexit Party, were Nazi, or Fascist parties did I? I said that they were far right, which I stand by. This is getting a little like having to constantly explain that my contention that Brexit was won on a racist campaign conducted by Farage doesn't mean that I'm calling every Leave voter a racist. Voting for the Brexit Party doesn't necessarily mean that you have far right tendencies. You are just voting for a party that does.

Trouble is everything looks far right from the far left, it's simply different perspective...
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A YouGov poll had him as the best performer in the debate. That was a poll of normal people though.

And the snide remark here illustrates that...
 
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some good news


Humanity's gains in the 21st century are a cause for considerable optimism.
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Improvements in Human Well-Being in the New Millennium



By Marian L. Tupy
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The story of humanity over the course of the last two centuries is nothing short of remarkable. As late as 1870, life expectancy in Europe and the world was 36 and 30 years, respectively. Today, it is 81 and 72 years, respectively. In 1820, 90 percent of humanity lived in extreme poverty. Today, less than 10 percent does. In 1800, 88 percent of the world’s population was illiterate. Today, 13 percent of the world’s population is illiterate. In 1800, 43 percent of children died before their fifth birthday. Today, less than 4 percent do. In 1816, 0.87 percent of the world’s population lived in a democracy. In 2015, 56 percent did. In 1800, food supply per person per day in France, which was one of the most advanced countries in the world, was a mere 1,846 calories. In 2013, food supply per person per day in Africa, the world’s poorest continent, amounted to 2,624 calories. Slavery, which was rampant in most parts of the world in 1800, is now illegal in every country. Finally, for the first time since the start of industrialization in the mid-18th century, global inequality is declining as developing countries catch up with the developed world.
The long-term trends in human welfare are undeniable, but indicators of human well-being have continued to improve at a dizzying speed within the lifespans of the teenagers in the West, many of whom are either ignorant of the real state of humanity or dissatisfied with the speed of progress. Opinion polls indicate that they have soured on free enterprise and are answering the siren calls of such socialists as Jeremy Corbyn in the United Kingdom and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in the United States. The hearts of the young are in the right place, but that does not absolve them of not knowing the facts. After all, if they want to change the world, they need to know something about it. To that end, I have looked at some of the most important indicators of human wellbeing, especially in the poor countries, since the start of the new millennium. The results are encouraging and ought to give us reasons for optimism.


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GDP per person, 2016 U.S. dollars, PPP, 2001-2017
Global: $11,347 → $17,196 (or a 52 percent increase)
Sub-Saharan Africa (SSA): $2,698 → $3,948 (or a 46 percent increase)
India: $2,773 → $6,950 (or a 78 percent increase)
China: $4,147 → $16,924 (or a 308 percent increase)
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2. Infant mortality rate, per 1,000 live births, 2001-2015
Global: 38.4 → 23.9 (or a 38 percent decline)
SSA: 82.2 → 51.7 (or a 37 percent decline)
India: 64.2 → 37.9 (or a 41 percent decline)
China: 28.3 → 9.2 (or a 68 percent decline)
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3. Life expectancy at birth, years, 2001-2016
Global: 67.9 → 72 (or a 6 percent increase)
SSA: 50.9 → 60.4 (or a 19 percent increase)
India: 62.9 → 68.6 (or a 9 percent increase)
China: 72.4 → 76.3 (or a 5 percent increase)
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4. Food consumption shortfall among food-deprived persons, calories, per day, 2001-2016*
Global: 132.3 → 88.3 (or a 33 percent decline)
SSA: 202.7 → 129.6 (or a 39 percent decline)
India: 118 → 109 (or a 8 percent decline)
China: 130 → 74 (or a 43 percent decline)
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5. Undernourishment as a percentage of population, 2001-2015
Global: 15.4 → 11.2 (or a 27 percent decline)
SSA: 27 → 18.8 (or a 30 percent decline)
India: 17.5 → 15.2 (or a 15 percent decline)
China: 16 → 9.3 (or a 42 percent decline)
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6. Maternal mortality rate, per 100,000 live births, 2001-2015
Global: 263.9 → 168.7 (or a 36 percent decline)
SSA: 736.9 → 481.9 (or a 35 percent decline)
India: 354 → 174 (or a 59 percent decline)
China: 56 → 27 (or a 52 percent decline)
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7. Poverty headcount ratio at $1.90 a day, adjusted for inflation and PPP, percent of population, 2001-2015
Global (2011): 28 → 12.5 (or a 55 percent decline)
SSA (2009): 53.5 → 47.3 (or a 12 percent decline)
India (2011): 40 → 21 (or a 48 percent decline)
China (2015): 34.5 → .7 (or a 98 percent decline)
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8. Tuberculosis deaths per 100,000 people, 2001-2016
Global: 23.6 → 15 (or a 36 percent decline)
SSA: 66 → 44 (or a 33 percent decline)
India: 58.6 → 33 (or a 44 percent decline)
China: 8.6 → 2.9 (or a 66 percent decline)
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The world is not a perfect place and never will be. As long as there are people who go hungry or die from preventable diseases, there will always be room for improvement. Everyone has a role to play in helping those in need. Genuine help, however, should start with a clear understanding of what works and what does not. Free societies characterized by the rule of law, property rights, domestic competition and free trade have a much better record of tackling human misery than their socialist alternatives. The young followers of Corbyn and Ocasio-Cortez should, therefore, keep the Hippocratic Oath in mind: If you want to help, first do no harm.
*The depth of the food deficit indicates how many calories would be needed to lift the undernourished from their status, everything else being constant. The average intensity of food deprivation of the undernourished, estimated as the difference between the average dietary energy requirement and the average dietary energy consumption of the undernourished population (food-deprived), is multiplied by the number of undernourished to provide an estimate of the total food deficit in the country, which is then normalized by the total population.