Off Topic Politics Thread

Latest YouGov poll, it appears Remainers want to remain more than Leavers want to leave:

 

No mandate, no basis to demand anything, no request by the electorate, no seats in parliament, nothing from the nowhere man.

 

The misnomer I've heard in every political discussion about the state of play since the original EU referendum result is the degree of deal we get in withdrawing from the EU. Nobody talks about the fact that the opinion of the public has swung around since mid-2016 such that if the UK left the EU now it would doing the thing that most people don't want. And guess what? I don't want a deal. I want a NO-DEAL REMAIN.
When the dust settles, after a year or so, we could talk about improving the situation for all member countries. But there's a lot of trust that needs rebuilding.

 

Boundary changes happen more times than people may think. When I think of electoral boundary changes that have affected me I'm thinking of one in particular that happened long enough ago that I don't remember the year or era. The only thing I can remember was that a Tory government was in place at the time, and practically all the boundary changes, including mine, improved the chances of their sitting MPs retaining their seats, and made slightly more unstable the chances of opposition MPs retaining theirs. Very democratic.
I'm sure there were official reasons, like demographic movement and such. But it was conveniently done, if your MP was a Tory.

 

I see the latest dirt has surfaced regarding one of the Prime minister wannabes' then........Do we really need to have the American style dirt on everyone?
Mind you that seems to be the way of the press these days..............Do we really need to know he did something stupid 20 years ago? Is that really a relevance today?

 

I agree to a point. What matters is honesty.. Boris admitted some 13 or 14 years ago to J Street Porter in an interview that he had used illegal substances, then later denied he had. Whether he did or didn't, one version is untrue, (unless of course both are fake news).... It is notable of the front runners Boris hasn't done any interviews.. It will be interesting to hear when the like of John Humphreys put him on the spot. Will the County Tories, (disgusted if Tunbridge Wells), still want to vote for the worst foreign Secretary in modern history?

 

Who gives a flyer about this bunch of spaffers?

 

I'd probably agree if I knew what a "spaffer" was........

 

An exponent of spaffing https://barbarahewson.org/2019/03/21/spaffing-around/

 

'All this malarkey.'
Is this the sort of precision that gets this buffoon considered a man of the people? What a twat.

 

A prairie hat doing cunning stunts. Bollocks to Boris and brexit.

 

I don't really care if they took drugs casually in their younger years, as I don't think that classifies you as a good or a bad person. Especially many years on into later life.

However, what really pisses me off is how when a middle/upper-class Tory candidate publicises and jokes about their past dabbling with drugs as if it's all mistaken jolly japes, all the while implementing and drawing up legislation within a system that would treat a working class, minority, or vulnerable member of our society - who had dabbled with exactly the same drugs in a very similar same way - with criminal sentencing and isolation rather than proactive assistance and rehabilitation.

 

As I understand it, Gove himself has brought this out into the open, but only because it was in a book that is being written/released.
Damage limitation rather than dirt being aired.
Having said that, Gove is an odious misogynist who once argued against maternity leave and seems to loathe the social state in general, so hopefully he won’t get near the leadership.

 

Might explain his loss of contact with reality though....

 

Looks like being Gove v Johnson put to the membership to decide the new leader, after the Conservative MPs have cast their support initially.

 

The very definition of Hobson's choice...both "class A" ****s.

 

Oh please no........That seems to secure it for me I'm emigrating if either gets in..........

 

No Sajid? I would have him in as one of the two, The other would be someone like Justine Greening. These two almost present an acceptable face of Conservatism, as does Heseltine, Major, Nicky Morgan, Ken Clarke, Dominic Grieve. These are the Tories that should be at the Forefront, to get back control of true Conservatism. Anything else is unacceptable.

 

An acceptable Conservative is an oxymoron, on their record of the last 40 years.

 

You can't polish a turd, you can't polish a tory.