You support Saints, of course you’re going grey (note correct spelling).
We all are *
* although some of us cherry blossom up in denial... @thereisonlyoneno7
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I don’t know what you mean. It’s natural....well about 20% of it [emoji16]
You support Saints, of course you’re going grey (note correct spelling).
We all are *
* although some of us cherry blossom up in denial... @thereisonlyoneno7
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People who have to surrender their passports to work and end up throwing themselves off factory roofs [Apple] versus any other smart watch manufacturer. No brainer.Thinking of getting a smart watch for my birthday, run about 5km a week and cycle/swim once a week, you recommend an Apple Watch (I have an iPhone) or should I go with Garmin. I think Apple Watch is better day to day but Garmin is better for sports although Apple has made significant improvements since I looked a few years ago @thereisonlyoneno7
Would end up boycotting most major companies as they almost all have ‘questionable’ (at best) rights for workersPeople who have to surrender their passports to work and end up throwing themselves off factory roofs [Apple] versus any other smart watch manufacturer. No brainer.![]()

Indeed. I would change 'most' for 'some', and why don't we boycott them? Seems a good idea to me. However, it is undoubtedly true that at, say Samsung for instance, they don't have to put nets up to catch people when they jump off the factory roof to commit suicide because the work arrangements are more appalling than they bargained for, because they are not. In fact, they're quite benign. Where as it is absolutely true of Apple in China. There is real evidence of this happening, and I'm not sure that it has stopped.Would end up boycotting most major companies as they almost all have ‘questionable’ (at best) rights for workers
Thinking of getting a smart watch for my birthday, run about 5km a week and cycle/swim once a week, you recommend an Apple Watch (I have an iPhone) or should I go with Garmin. I think Apple Watch is better day to day but Garmin is better for sports although Apple has made significant improvements since I looked a few years ago @thereisonlyoneno7
Thinking of getting a smart watch for my birthday, run about 5km a week and cycle/swim once a week, you recommend an Apple Watch (I have an iPhone) or should I go with Garmin. I think Apple Watch is better day to day but Garmin is better for sports although Apple has made significant improvements since I looked a few years ago @thereisonlyoneno7
Thinking of getting a smart watch for my birthday, run about 5km a week and cycle/swim once a week, you recommend an Apple Watch (I have an iPhone) or should I go with Garmin. I think Apple Watch is better day to day but Garmin is better for sports although Apple has made significant improvements since I looked a few years ago @thereisonlyoneno7
Thinking of getting a smart watch for my birthday, run about 5km a week and cycle/swim once a week, you recommend an Apple Watch (I have an iPhone) or should I go with Garmin. I think Apple Watch is better day to day but Garmin is better for sports although Apple has made significant improvements since I looked a few years ago @thereisonlyoneno7
Would end up boycotting most major companies as they almost all have ‘questionable’ (at best) rights for workers
People who have to surrender their passports to work and end up throwing themselves off factory roofs [Apple] versus any other smart watch manufacturer. No brainer.![]()
Those damned statistics again. I guess we ought to celebrate Foxconn [Apple] saving everybody's lives then. Or perhaps not. Just buy a product from another company that doesn't have a slightly dodgy reputation. I'm sure there are one or two out there."The most notorious example was when, in 2010, 10 workers at a Foxconn electronics factory in China killed themselves – a shocking fact that tarnished Foxconn’s most famous customer, Apple, and caused millions of iPhone owners to feel faintly guilty. But the factory employed an astonishing 400,000 people; so the reported suicide rate, rather than being shockingly high, was implausibly low, a sixth of the Chinese average."
From http://timharford.com/articles/sya/page/3/
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I’m tempted to buy a Xiaomi for my next phone, but I can’t find anything about the rights of their employees online, other that they are pretty much all Chinese. Any ideas?Those damned statistics again. I guess we ought to celebrate Foxconn [Apple] saving everybody's lives then. Or perhaps not. Just buy a product from another company that doesn't have a slightly dodgy reputation. I'm sure there are one or two out there.![]()
I really don't know mate. What do we know about Chinese manufacturing, period? We do know that they seem to have a national work ethic like no other, but is that subjugation or is it simply that they make things easy enough for Chinese people to work quickly? I'm the first to admit I am incredibly ignorant on what goes on in China, as far as the ethical pros and cons of their products, and I don't think I'm anywhere near alone. That ignorance has to change because undoubtedly we all will be buying more major Chinese product in the future.I’m tempted to buy a Xiaomi for my next phone, but I can’t find anything about the rights of their employees online, other that they are pretty much all Chinese. Any ideas?
I’m tempted to buy a Xiaomi for my next phone, but I can’t find anything about the rights of their employees online, other that they are pretty much all Chinese. Any ideas?
They should make them all look like 50s American carsShareholders are asking BMW about electric models that would blow Tesla out of the water. That's a quote from an article about upcoming vehicles like this one. The iNext:
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How hideous do vehicles have to get when they are electric to stop people buying them? I think this one is probably sales proof.![]()
They could. Actually, I do like this Peugeot E-Legend. This is an all-electric car I would love to see put into production:They should make them all look like 50s American cars