EFL Conspiracy?

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BillysStatue said:
It's been said so often over the years that the EFL really don't want Leeds to get promotion to the Prem. Heck, you could even say the FA feel the same when you look at some of the refereeing panel decisions made recently. To add some fuel to the theory out there, here are some observations I made during last night's game:

Bamford yellow card - Lawrence fell over very easily after the slightest touch from Bartley in the final Derby league game, penalty given, no retrospective action from FA because "there was contact", regardless how minimal ... Grealish bought a penalty by dragging his foot against WBA to "initiate contact", penalty given, again "minimal contact" so no action for cheating ... Bamford gets properly barged by Keogh, he gets a yellow EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS CONTACT

Bennett penalty - "minimal contact" from Cooper, no trip even, penalty given and Cooper gets a yellow ... seriously? WTF?

Berardi red - yes,stupid indeed, but should not have even made it to the flash point as Berardi was fouled and ref should have blown ... no advantage for Berardi as he had to turn and face his goal ... WTF????

Derby winner - Bogle clearly dives in Leeds penalty area, ref should blow up and yellow card him but allows play on ... Leeds lose the ball, Derby counter and score ... Bogle DOESN'T GET A YELLOW AT ALL FOR DIVING ... WTF??????

yes, I know it sounds like sour grapes, but I have no issue with Derby winning ... I do have an issue with referees consistently getting big calls wrong against Leeds ... e.g. Pawson at Derby on Saturday gave a penalty incorrectly, and had his assistant not overruled his poor call, the pen would have stood ... something just doesn't sit right when you look back over the season and see how many decisions have gone against Leeds that were clearly bad

then there's the unprecedented £200k fine for "spygate" that clearly targeted Leeds ... how can receiving team information illegally from a proper "internal spy" be a £25k fine (Palace v Cardiff), yet watching a team train from PUBLIC footpath be worthy of such a massive "invented" sanction?

anti-Leeds folk will claim we're paranoid, that we wrongly assume the EFL, FA and Sky are all against us, but I honestly starting to feel that there is a covert agenda against Leeds .. I wonder what the "roll of dishonour" would look like if someone went back over our season and looked at all the dubious decisions against us ... here's a few to jog the memory:

Pontus red card at Stoke
Canos headbutting Alioski in the Brentford game at ER and the "panel" deciding it wasn't violent conduct
Watkins dive in same game for their penalty goal again being dismissed by the "panel" as nothing
Hourihane punching Klich in chest deemed by the "panel" as "not violent enough"
Bamford clearly fouled at Brentford yet no penalty given by ref standing 5 yards away
Baldock somehow committing GBH twice at Blades yet not getting sent off
and the list goes on ......

this truly is beyond funny, beyond coincidence ... it genuinely feels as if Leeds are fighting a losing battle against a regime hell-bent on keeping the club out of the Prem ... everybody knows that the EFL's TV viewing figures will plummet when Leeds do eventually go up, and that will equate to millions in lost revenue ... who's going to want to watch Boro v Stoke in all honesty? Leeds are propping up the EFL/Sky deal, as well as the EFL's global PPV money ... let's not kid around, there's more than just a game at stake every time Leeds United take to the field ... the EFL and Sky truly need Leeds United or a similar derivative in the Championship, it's extremely good for business

so, call me paranoid, call me crazy, but can you truly justify the treatment Leeds have received this season?

can you truly write it all off to coincidence?

if you think you can, please reply and show me that it's all just "one of those things", it's just plain bad luck, and it all evens out in the end ... be great to hear from you so that I can stop thinking there's a vendetta of sorts going on, it will be good for my sanity

PS. please comment responsibly, with intelligence and humility ... just spewing a load of filth is not a valid argument ... yes, we know about the Bamford "all fall down" moment, and we nailed him for it ... yes, we saw the Roofe handball goal against Forest, and agreed it was wrong, so no need to try and use these as "holier than thou" points
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Paranoid guff.

The fact is Leeds bottled it, weren’t good enough and seems some fans can’t accept it.

Jeez we had enough wrong decisions in the PL to make you wonder if there was a conspiracy against City but we just got on with it and accepted we were just not quite good enough.

Get over it.
 
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ninian opinion said:
Paranoid guff.

The fact is Leeds bottled it, weren’t good enough and seems some fans can’t accept it.

Jeez we had enough wrong decisions in the PL to make you wonder if there was a conspiracy against City but we just got on with it and accepted we were just not quite good enough.

Get over it.
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I agree that Leeds bottled it, but Colin Moanock "just got on with it and accepted...." That's really rich!! :1980_boogie_down:
 
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Janson fouled from behind near the half-way line just as the ref blew up. No freekick and Janson missed the next game or two injured. Cant remember who against. Also his comment on Sky when asked about the ref and he gets a fine and a ban. Might have been same match. That ref was especially poor.
 
LeeUtd said:
Janson fouled from behind near the half-way line just as the ref blew up. No freekick and Janson missed the next game or two injured. Cant remember who against
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It was Derby's Waghorn with the red card challenge which of course went unpunished
 
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Hi, I've posted here before as I've always had a soft spot for Leeds. Drove up every weekend for a long time from Norwich to see a girlfriend in Leeds. Loved the city, the people and had several good afternoons at ER. In the 70's Leeds were fantastic and as a kid loved watching on MOTD. However, I find it hard to believe in a conspiracy by EFL, FA and Sky to keep Leeds in the Championship. Every team can probably find any number of bad decisions that have had an affect on their season if you look hard enough. The truth it seems to me is that around Christmas Leeds and Norwich were probably the stand out teams up to that point. Leeds had a dramatic loss of form, Norwich did too but a bit later. Norwich rallied and kept their noses out of the s**t you guys didn't. Sheff U had a great run at the end of the season but if Leeds had maintained any kind of form you would have stayed ahead of them and could easily have been champions. That loss of form came from Leeds not from ref's putting games away for other teams.

At Christmas, promotion was entirely in your own hands, not the gift of the EFL, FA and Sky. Personally I'm sad it's not you on automatic with Norwich and I hope you have a better season next time. I don't mind Sheff U, their own story is good and worth promotion but I'm not chuffed at seeing either Villa or FLDC going up. Sorry lads but I don't buy into the conspiracy stuff, your management or players either weren't up for it at the gritty end or they weren't good enough, you'll have to make that decision.
 
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Sorry lads, I don't buy in to this conspiracy theory.
1st game against derby ref overturned a peno that he had given for starters.
All clubs have these complaints throughout a season.
As for VAR that can go bollox aswell,even after watching endless replays from 27 different angles no one agrees.
Football is the most popular game in the world, leave it alone, we don't need microscopic 8 k cameras and the ball measured if it was over the line by some james bondesque technolgy borrowed from NASA
What goes around comes around,and we can have some good discussion in the pub after.
 
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Ringo Lion said:
Dozens of clubs in the football league can argue that there is an agenda against their team, Millwall are probably more hard done by than Leeds, our 'no one likes us' chant is to do with the authorities restrictions and hurdles imposed upon us rather than how other supporters view us, throughout the season we are up against the FA/EFL, refs trying to prove themselves, every police force, dragonian restrictions on purchasing tickets and travel plans and then certain teams raising their game when they play us due to the hype surrounding us, all of this has installed a siege mentality from the fans through to the team.
On last nights game the ref was card happy too early but wasn't helped by players from both sides feigning injury, both red cards were deserved.
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Really Ringo ? You get away with murder, the amount of linesmen hit with bottles by Millwall fans, the amount of false penalties you get <doh> the only club found guilty of breaking ffp that got nothing, no fine, no 9 point deduction, nothing at all. <doh>
 
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esteponawhite said:
Sorry lads, I don't buy in to this conspiracy theory.
1st game against derby ref overturned a peno that he had given for starters.
All clubs have these complaints throughout a season.
As for VAR that can go bollox aswell,even after watching endless replays from 27 different angles no one agrees.
Football is the most popular game in the world, leave it alone, we don't need microscopic 8 k cameras and the ball measured if it was over the line by some james bondesque technolgy borrowed from NASA
What goes around comes around,and we can have some good discussion in the pub after.
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I don't believe the EFL or FA sit down with the refs and decide Leeds should remain in this division.

I believe the standard of refs is poor and it's always easier to magnify your own clubs injustices, I was speaking with a Forest fan the other day who was still upset about Roofes handballl goal

I do however believe when dishing out punishment the EFL panel are harder on us than they are others.
 
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ristac said:
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I do however believe when dishing out punishment the EFL panel are harder on us than they are others.
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There could be something in that. If the same people are involved from the EFL over a period of time they could well be pi****d off at the attitude of some of your previous owners, papa smurf springs to mind.
 
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lifecheshirewhite said:
Really Ringo ? You get away with murder, the amount of linesmen hit with bottles by Millwall fans, the amount of false penalties you get <doh> the only club found guilty of breaking ffp that got nothing, no fine, no 9 point deduction, nothing at all. <doh>
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its the sign of the times Chesh, you've got to back down to the minorites, its not politically correct to question or punish them<whistle>
 
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I've met a guy who does the f a panels and the appeals, he's a Stoke fan, hates Leeds and calls us dirty Leeds. He happily told me he had done some Leeds charges etc, never told me how he voted but listening to him and his opinion of Leeds, he didn't have too.
 
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