Match Day Thread Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

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carlthejackal said:
I think this is the sort of attitude that's been frowned upon and for which we (in general) condemned the mancs a while back when they pulled out of the competition.

If we are in the final of the FA cup then we would do everything to win it. I think you'd say different if we WERE in the final and not in a hypothetical situation.

Remember weve not won nought for ages.
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If we were in the final I'd 100% support. But given that we ARE out, then offering a place in the final now would not be attractive.

Even ignoring the CL preparation part, would you really want to be in a final just for the sake of a trophy even if there was no story behind it?

So IMO it's BS to now say "oh we finished 2nd the season was completely worthless and unenjoyable we might as well had a FA Cup while watching our team draw 0-0 with [HASHTAG]#nomarks[/HASHTAG] every other week".

You want to trade the story of this season and all the experiences and progress just so we could play Watford at Wembley?
 
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astro said:
If we were in the final I'd 100% support. But given that we ARE out, then offering a place in the final now would not be attractive.

Even ignoring the CL preparation part, would you really want to be in a final just for the sake of a trophy even if there was no story behind it?

So IMO it's BS to now say "oh we finished 2nd the season was completely worthless and unenjoyable we might as well had a FA Cup while watching our team draw 0-0 with [HASHTAG]#nomarks[/HASHTAG] every other week".

You want to trade the story of this season and all the experiences and progress just so we could play Watford at Wembley?
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Remember football is not only about points and progress. It is about the glory, the triumphs, the visceral joy of watching us lifting a cup. It is about the day at Wembley (yes I can see the ridicule coming about it being devalued too the semis there) . But I know there is a hierarchy of importance. We would have to agree to disagree. Winning the FA cup (or even league cup) would have been great. It is interesting that some are dissing these trophies yet we haven't even won one for ages.

And if we don't win anything will history record this period as the glorious chase of City but ultimately fruitless? Glory?
 
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astro said:
If we were in the final I'd 100% support. But given that we ARE out, then offering a place in the final now would not be attractive.

Even ignoring the CL preparation part, would you really want to be in a final just for the sake of a trophy even if there was no story behind it?

So IMO it's BS to now say "oh we finished 2nd the season was completely worthless and unenjoyable we might as well had a FA Cup while watching our team draw 0-0 with [HASHTAG]#nomarks[/HASHTAG] every other week".

You want to trade the story of this season and all the experiences and progress just so we could play Watford at Wembley?
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Hang on. You said earlier that you were 50/50 and now you say 100%. :) which is it?
 
carlthejackal said:
Remember football is not only about points and progress. It is about the glory, the triumphs, the visceral joy of watching us lifting a cup. It is about the day at Wembley (yes I can see the ridicule coming about it being devalued too the semis there) . But I know there is a hierarchy of importance. We would have to agree to disagree. Winning the FA cup (or even league cup) would have been great. It is interesting that some are dissing these trophies yet we haven't even won one for ages.
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Maybe making a [HASHTAG]#graph[/HASHTAG] after every game skews my view of just how insanely good this season has been.
 
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carlthejackal said:
Hang on. You said earlier that you were 50/50 and now you say 100%. :) which is it?
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We're talking about alternate timelines.

In the timeline where we remained in the FA Cup I 100% support us winning it.

In the timeline where loads of teams are disqualified from the FA Cup because they broke the rules and the FA asks us if we want to play the final next week then I'm not bothered either way and will let Klopp decide what's best.
 
astro said:
Maybe making a [HASHTAG]#graph[/HASHTAG] after every game skews my view of just how insanely good this season has been.
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No one is arguing that the run has been exceptional and probably will not be repeated in our lifetime. insane is the right word.

That is why it is really sickening that there is nothing to show for it.
 
carlthejackal said:
Remember football is not only about points and progress. It is about the glory, the triumphs, the visceral joy of watching us lifting a cup. It is about the day at Wembley (yes I can see the ridicule coming about it being devalued too the semis there) . But I know there is a hierarchy of importance. We would have to agree to disagree. Winning the FA cup (or even league cup) would have been great. It is interesting that some are dissing these trophies yet we haven't even won one for ages.

And if we don't win anything will history record this period as the glorious chase of City but ultimately fruitless? Glory?
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For me, football is about being entertained. If we can win something in the process then great but I'm not hung up about it do long as we're in the mix.

For players, they want to win silverware.
 
carlthejackal said:
Remember football is not only about points and progress. It is about the glory, the triumphs, the visceral joy of watching us lifting a cup. It is about the day at Wembley (yes I can see the ridicule coming about it being devalued too the semis there) . But I know there is a hierarchy of importance. We would have to agree to disagree. Winning the FA cup (or even league cup) would have been great. It is interesting that some are dissing these trophies yet we haven't even won one for ages.

And if we don't win anything will history record this period as the glorious chase of City but ultimately fruitless? Glory?
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No
BUT YOU will remember everything
The pain and the joy
 
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