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Dier Hard

Dier Hard

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Aug 26, 2011
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As mentioned by a few news sources today, our Brazilian keeper looks like he'll be on the move in January.

Any thoughts? Reckon a keeper will be brought in to replace him should he leave? Maybe a young upcoming keeper like Scott Loach? That way he can learn from Brad and Carlo and push for a place in time to come? Or do we go for someone to compete straight away?
 
It depends upon his attitude, for me.
If he's actually willing to stay and fight for his place, while learning from the highly experienced Friedel, then I'd love to see him keep his place in the squad.
If he's already given in, as appears to be the case, then your suggestion of someone like Loach would be ideal.
 
Looks like he's given in to be honest PNP, although you can't always go by paper talk, but they reckon he's seeking a move and wants out, shame really as he could learn from Friedel as you say and turn out to be top keeper.
 
I'm not really going by paper talk though, SoS.
They appear to be direct quotes from Redknapp, so it's not just some journalist making stuff up.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...eurelho-Gomes-likely-leave-Spurs-January.html
‘He’s not happy and he’s eyeing a January move,’ said Redknapp. ‘If the chance comes for him to play elsewhere, I’m sure he’ll take it.
‘I’ve not bombed out Gomes and made him No 3 keeper but we decided Carlo Cudicini would be better on the bench.
‘Gomes has trained hard but Friedel is fantastic. If ever there was a man who didn’t deserve those two beatings by Manchester United and Manchester City, it was him.'

Ok, it's The Fail, but I've seen the exact same stuff posted elsewhere.
Disappointing, but I guess Gomes wants a shot at being his country's number 1 and he's not going to get that on our bench.
Not sure who he's expecting to come in for him, though.
 
Sorry, but I don't have much sympathy, and even less confidence, in Gomes. He's been given numerous opportunities to come good, and cut out the farcical mistakes, that he makes on a far too regular basis. If truth were to be told, i'm sure our defence lost confidence in him a long time ago.
 
I doubt he'll take over the number 1 shirt from Julio Cesar to be honest, even if he becomes number 1 here or at another club. Maybe PSV will try and get him back, though they have Isaksson at the moment so perhaps not. There's bound to be a club out there that would have him (at least for his sake I hope so), as clumbsy as he can be at times, he can pull off some amazing saves.
 
I'd expect him to go out on loan in January, rather than a permanent move.
Might be best for all involved, especially if we can bring in a young replacement.

Firstly, it would allow him to regain some confidence by playing regularly.
Secondly, it might allow him to get his transfer value back up, if he can put in some impressive performances.
Thirdly, it would allow us to bring in some fresh blood in that position, which we'll need to do sooner or later, as Friedel and Cudicini are getting on a bit.
Lastly, it would allow any possible replacement for Redknapp to make his own decision about who he'd prefer to be our number 1.
 
Loaning him would be definitely be ideal. Though I'm not sure many clubs playing in the top tier of their respected leagues would be interested in loaning a keeper for 6 months to be first choice and then potentially lose him in the summer (unless there's a buy out clause).
We don't need fresh blood if Friedel can play 'til 50!!! :D. Though in all honesty if Friedel is still performing come the end of his 2 year deal, I see no reason why we shouldn't give him another contract, as long as players are performing to a top standard I couldn't care less about age, though like I said earlier, someone like Loach would really benefit from the likes of Friedel and Carlo and would (hopefully) sort us out in that department in the long term.
 
Carlo: Safe Hands. Steady Head. Ok shot stopper. Ok with crosses. Commands area. Doesn't scare our defenders.
Friedel: Safe Hands. Steady Head. Good shot stopper. Great with crosses. Commands area. Inspires confidence.
Gomes: Good shot stopper .....errrrr.

Time to get a younger keeper with potential, (bye Alnwick) to slot in when the old timers retire.
 
We have 5 other goalkeepers as professionals, Button, Jansson, Ranieri, Archer and Alnwick. If Gomes left why do we need to replace him? Alnwick was even included in the 25 for the premiership (as a fourth keeper) whilst Crouch (as a 5th striker) was told that there was no room in the 25 for him. Something fishy afoot methinks.

Alternatively, if none of the afore mentioned are good enough, why do we keep them?
 
Alnwick's not good enough in my opinion, Deedub.
The others would probably benefit more from playing regularly, either for our academy side or out on loan, and aren't ready for Premier League football.

Bringing in someone like Loach, who already has a substantial number of games under his belt and could play in the cups, would allow us to have plenty of cover and have the new guy learn from two experienced keepers.
 
Isn't Alnwick on loan now? Not that I'd want him anywhere near the squad anyway.

I wish we hadn't missed out on Begovic, he was very impressive again on the weekend.

I'd be happy with Friedel and Carlo as one and two until the end of the season but I think we'll need to address the issue again at the end of the season, if Gomes does leave.
 
Think it will be a damn shame if he does go, he was the keeper when had between the sticks when we got into the CL and when we got 5th last year after all...

Whilst the jury is still out on BF in my opinion (although his stock improved after the game on Saturday) I'll be disappointed if Gomes goes.
 
To be fair Deedub Alnwick is pony. Can't understand why we offered him a new contract. Of all the others you said, Button probably has the best chance to make 3rd choice. Though I still reckon someone like Loach, who isn't much older than our young keepers would be ideal, he's all ready played a good number of games for Watford and also u-21 experience under his belt.


Schteffen, Begovic now, looks like he would have been a great signing.
 
The rumour that I heard about the deal for Begovic falling through was that we gave him and Pletikosa a medical in the same place at the same time!
Begovic thought that this meant he wasn't exactly first choice and the Croatian failed, despite coming back later and only playing once.
 
PnP

If it was so important to have a fouth keeper in our 25, why did we loan him out at the first possible opportunity? Who has replaced him in the 25? Another keeper, someone else or nobody? Is our 25 now 24? If he isn't good enough then get rid of him.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
The rumour that I heard about the deal for Begovic falling through was that we gave him and Pletikosa a medical in the same place at the same time!
Begovic thought that this meant he wasn't exactly first choice and the Croatian failed, despite coming back later and only playing once.
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Yeah someone over on SCITK posted something similar to that. Quite funny to be honest. I just thought it was brilliant though when Pompey had to pay us £1m for him when they sold him to Stoke even though he had nothing to do with us, say what you like about Levy but the man's a business genius!
 
I don't think that it was important, Deedub.
We didn't have anyone else to fill the spot though, so it would've been pointless to not put him in.

As far as I know he can't be replaced til January and I'd agree that he should be moved on.
 
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