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State vs Religion

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Sharpe*, Apr 15, 2019.

  1. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Nah no wum. Just surprised that when you look into things it's surprising what you find.

    All fair and we'll blaming or criticising other countries but the facts are our system is pretty much messed up too
     
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  2. J๏E..

    J๏E.. The King of Hearts

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    Religion and Dictatorship in politics is a car crash imo.. The past reflects that and doesn't lie..
     
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  3. BobbyD

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    What context is there to the case in brunei <laugh>.

    Its even called sharia law and the guy at the top follows Islam and makes the laws. How is religion not involved here?
     
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    HRH Custard VC National Car Park Attendant

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    Yes it is, its called Hades or Sheol
     
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  5. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    The sources are various. From newspapers, to channel 4 news discussion etc.

    And the figures are factual, so I don't get this love China response
     
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  6. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    It was Mossad.
     
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  7. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    And whose word do we take for that? How could anyone have possibly measured which State was the most influenced? You haven't backed it up at all and so it's not interesting at all.

    Unlike my Rather Nice Images thread, which is very interesting <ok>
     
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  8. thefanwithnoname

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    Sharia just means law in Arabic. There is the linguistic meaning and the religious meaning.

    Guy claims to be implementing Sharia doesn't mean it's religious.

    Brunei isn't religious Sharia, neither is Saudi etc. The king's etc do what they please
     
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  9. BobbyD

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    The only source you gave me was humanist uk.

    With respect to religion and its effects, we are one of the most secular and liberal countries so i will have to disagree with your source mate.
     
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  10. thefanwithnoname

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    I found it interesting, if you didn't good for you.

    Fact is we are second to Iran in one aspect and second to China in another. So much for democracy and secularism
     
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  11. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    Except it isn't.
     
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  12. thefanwithnoname

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    Yeah I did with a laughing smilie. But also said there are other sources.

    The humanist had it in simple form so I quoted it. But it's exactly the same in other sources of

    If you find one that says otherwise. Let me know and I will look into it
     
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  13. PleaseNotPoll

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    Source? <whistle>
     
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  14. BobbyD

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    Not sure many people will agree with you here and im normally more critical of the uk than most
     
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  15. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    Fan, I happen to think the vast majority of Faiths are good. I am a person of Faith myself. But when people of ANY State feel they need to have any religion interfere with the running of the State then I question just how insecure and how much Faith such people really have?

    After all, if your faith is protected by the almighty then why do you need to worry about having it influence your State?

    And with that, I'm out.

    (Going back to the Rather Nice Images Thread) :biggrin:
     
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    It's not about agreement. I'm all for discussion
     
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  17. DMD

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    It's true, but there are the usual divisions. I heard a bloke on the train to London talking about the north secular and the south secular.
     
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  18. BobbyD

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    You are right mate. Let me know if you need me to put in a good word with mr xi to come to a more liberal and free country
     
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  19. thefanwithnoname

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    I do agree with this. Albeit I think the state has tried to "bastardise" Faith's to begin with. So the current British system was always about Henry the 8th and his divorce

    Similarly I see the **** going on with muslim countries and it depresses me as a Muslim.

    Take Saudi for example, because it's seem as the Muslim capital as it were. More scholars languish in prisons there than anywhere because they come out against the govt yet it's seen as a Sharia based country.

    Even my own country of origin has guys like taqi usmani (now in banking sector in Dubai or Abu Dhabi). This guy is a puppet to the max. But seen as a religious influence. No he is influenced

    Also mate if you are religious etc then you know it's not as simple as protected from the almighty
     
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  20. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Free to work 72 hour weeks for pennies, you slacker? Sign me up!
     
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