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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    Good let's rid of this stupid woman and bring in a proper Brexiteer leader.
     
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    Careful what you wish for, this could result in a General Election with May still leading the Tories.
     
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    This was from the Sunday Times and rings true. 9 out of 10 civil servant think about saving their bureaucratic jobs and push Remain
     
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    Gove has burned his boats supporting May's deal with Backstop in place. I'd go for Dominic Raab. He's pro Brexit, an astute lawyer and can negotiate.
     
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    Bring on a GE... It will be the only true peoples vote. Labour would lose over 100 seats and Tories about the same... Replaced by a Brexit party MP's. May will be out soon and i think it maybe the best way to get rid of the remain MP's that are trying to stop the will of the people. See the end of Soubry/Chukka/Grieve/Cooper/TIG/ and the rest of the Euro loving MP's. We need a clear out.
     
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    Yes, he's a clever man alright.......

     
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  8. Might be true in some areas but definitely not most. If we remain they'll get rid of all the people that were brought in to deal with this. I don't think there should be a second referendum and I would fear for my 30 year career if we overturned Article 50. The cuts would be savage.
     
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    He is a bloody clever man and he explained that he had only just got the job and it was taken out of context. Think of the millions of gaffs your beloved Corbyn does every week.
    He would be a tough no nonsense PM and we all know what he thinks of the EU. :1980_boogie_down:
     
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    Although all of those that have tried to derail Brexit should all go. Plenty of people in there that will say who is remain and leave.
     
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    The only reason we are “reliant on it “ is because it’s the shortest route between us and them, no other reason, I , in my job visit and use most ports in the U.K., Immingham, Killingholme,Purfleet, Tees-port,Felixstowe, London Gateway Harwich, Tilbury and Hull to name the majority of the entry points from Europe into the U.K. all are exceedingly busy and all are very well used, we all tend to think Calais-Dover and forget all the others because the media use that link and it’s become ingrained in our subconscious as the only port from Europe.
     
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    I was talking to someone in the Lord Chancellor's Dept who gave me the 90% Remain figure (including him!). It's heartening you think it may not be true throughout the whole CS. Agree with you wholeheartedly about the second referendum. Brexit has to be delivered. I keep coming back to the fact that since there is a majority in Parliament for nothing and we move towards a default no deal, the EU will fold on the time limit on the backstop. I just feel this is the most likely outcome unless idiots like Boles and Cooper succeed in getting Parliament to take over Brexit, in which case there really could be a crisis in democracy nationwide.
     
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    Agree we know we stand with Raab. He can be quite cold but he knows his stuff and won't sell out. Gove is a wimp and blown it for supporting May.
     
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  14. To be fair the 90% figure is probably true in terms of who voted remain and who voted leave but it's most certainly wrong to suggest that every remain voter in the Civil Service is derailing it. We're definitely not - such people are very much in a tiny minority.
     
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    I think what he's saying is that the UK is over-reliant on Dover/Calais. He could have phrased it better.
     
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    Comforted by that - keep up the good work, Dan :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    If they do that there will be hell to pay. I read an article yesterday that basically said if they somehow take over from the government it would ruin politics in this country and there would be a massive backlash.
     
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    Cold and hard nosed is what we need dealing with Brussels. We've seen May rolling over and having her tummy tickled by Junckers and Tusk and it's got her nowhere
     
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    I really think there would be. People will put up with a lot, but injustice, no.
     
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    Agree.
    By the way...
    European investment into the UK is currently running at double what it was before the referendum.
    I thought we were told nobody would invest? :emoticon-0127-lipss
     
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