The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 4th Mar)

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Whitejock said:
So you're a psychiatrist now? Like Chesh, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, and clearly know noting about mental illness. like Chesh, I hope it never happens to you, and no-one ever holds you to account if it does happen. Logic plays no part in mental illness. Capable decision-making is often the first thing to go.
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Ok why don't you say she took the money to fight world terrorism,while you're making it up <doh>
 
Davy put up a link,for a young girl last week that needed similar treatment,this womans stealing may now cost this girl her life,as people will stop giving.
 
lifecheshirewhite said:
No,you have to stop this trying to bully everyone into having your opinion,if she had any mental illness she and her Lawyer's would have been using it as an excuse by now.
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I'm not trying to bully anyone. Frankly though, I'm disgusted by you. You've really disappointed me.

You fail to understand anything about mental illness. I get that. Not a lot do.

However, the the possibility of it has been brought to your attention by someone that has had to deal with the sharp end of mental illness - in a professional manner, if you like. That should warn you off if you have any humanity in you. But no, you want to make an argument out of it. Prolly for kicks too, sadly. Prolly be thrilled to bits if she did top herself. Well, you might not be disappointed. There's a long way to go.

I will not argue about this.
 
Good result for us this evening, we need to go on a run and hopefully watch the blades crack - they were dire tonight
 
Whitejock said:
I'm not trying to bully anyone. Frankly though, I'm disgusted by you. You've really disappointed me.

You fail to understand anything about mental illness. I get that. Not a lot do.

However, the the possibility of it has been brought to your attention by someone that has had to deal with the sharp end of mental illness - in a professional manner, if you like. That should warn you off if you have any humanity in you. But no, you want to make an argument out of it. Prolly for kicks too, sadly. Prolly be thrilled to bits if she did top herself. Well, you might not be disappointed. There's a long way to go.

I will not argue about this.
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Only you thinks she has mental illness,lets let everyone go rapists,murderers,isis,robbers,burglers and just say they may have mental illness,if you have any proof that the world doesn't know about,show us.Untill then she's a normal person,robbing a fund set up to save her sons life,as low as you can go,and how many will die,because of her stealing 1-10 how many till you say enough.
 
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OLOF said:
A few of our snowflakes could do with going on there:emoticon-0102-bigsm
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General statement to all. Not aimed at you personally, OLOF:

I suffer from depression. I was diagnosed at the age of 55, 5 years ago. After much reflection, I now realise that I have almost certainly been depressed all of my life & prolly will be until I die. Fortunately though, I have developed coping mechanisms that help keep me fairly close to the straight & narrow. For now.

I was a Samaritans Listener for a number of years, but resigned when diagnosed, as most of my callers were depression sufferers. I was mild by comparison, but it seemed the right thing to do.

Anyone on here could be suffering & not know it. The same goes for your family or friends. I hope not.

I will finish on one remark. One that I hope is educational, and one that I bang the drum about because it's true and the very core of misunderstanding or misdiagnosing mental illness - logic plays no part in the illness, so don't try to apply it or insist upon it. If you don't understand mental illness, then don't pontificate as though you know what you're talking about, as some have done online tonight. This is people's lives we're talking about, not a subject for uneducated argument or WUMing.

There, I've said it. Read it a few times. If this strikes a chord with anyone about themselves or someone they know, don't hesitate to PM me.

Cheers, Neil.
 
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This just may turn out to be the story of the season if true. An English sports journo says Getafe are asking Leeds if they will take Saiz back. They say they are not going to buy him so he will go back to Leeds sooner or later?
 
Doc said:
This just may turn out to be the story of the season if true. An English sports journo says Getafe are asking Leeds if they will take Saiz back. They say they are not going to buy him so he will go back to Leeds sooner or later?
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Some crap deal we got there if true. We pay his wages while there, supposedly with a guarantee of 6m at the end. Now we get nothing. He’ll undoubtedly return unfit and need weeks to get up to speed
 
Doc said:
This just may turn out to be the story of the season if true. An English sports journo says Getafe are asking Leeds if they will take Saiz back. They say they are not going to buy him so he will go back to Leeds sooner or later?
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Hope it's true and we get him back, Bielsa can give him the 3rd degree and bring him up to scratch.

I suspect there may be more on Saiz's mind than we know.

He has too much talent to just throw it all away.

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Whitejock said:
General statement to all. Not aimed at you personally, OLOF:

I suffer from depression. I was diagnosed at the age of 55, 5 years ago. After much reflection, I now realise that I have almost certainly been depressed all of my life & prolly will be until I die. Fortunately though, I have developed coping mechanisms that help keep me fairly close to the straight & narrow. For now.

I was a Samaritans Listener for a number of years, but resigned when diagnosed, as most of my callers were depression sufferers. I was mild by comparison, but it seemed the right thing to do.

Anyone on here could be suffering & not know it. The same goes for your family or friends. I hope not.

I will finish on one remark. One that I hope is educational, and one that I bang the drum about because it's true and the very core of misunderstanding or misdiagnosing mental illness - logic plays no part in the illness, so don't try to apply it or insist upon it. If you don't understand mental illness, then don't pontificate as though you know what you're talking about, as some have done online tonight. This is people's lives we're talking about, not a subject for uneducated argument or WUMing.

There, I've said it. Read it a few times. If this strikes a chord with anyone about themselves or someone they know, don't hesitate to PM me.

Cheers, Neil.
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I know you’re not asking for it, but you have my sympathy WJ. First steps in dealing with it is recognition.... diagnosis AND accepting the diagnosis. The accepting bit often seems difficult for people. You’ve done that and I hope your coping mechanisms continue to keep you on track.

I don’t have depression myself but my family have had a knack of marrying into it. I’ve seen first hand what it can do to people and to those that have to live with them. It’s the last great taboo, the more people talk openly about it, the better.

I’ve no idea whether Toby’s mum has depression, though there is a strong link between gambling... compulsive, addictive behaviour... and mental illness. Certainly she’ll have been dealing with awful anxiety I can barely contemplate. Their family’s story is an incredibly sad one that only gets sadder.
 
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Whitejock said:
General statement to all. Not aimed at you personally, OLOF:

I suffer from depression. I was diagnosed at the age of 55, 5 years ago. After much reflection, I now realise that I have almost certainly been depressed all of my life & prolly will be until I die. Fortunately though, I have developed coping mechanisms that help keep me fairly close to the straight & narrow. For now.

I was a Samaritans Listener for a number of years, but resigned when diagnosed, as most of my callers were depression sufferers. I was mild by comparison, but it seemed the right thing to do.

Anyone on here could be suffering & not know it. The same goes for your family or friends. I hope not.

I will finish on one remark. One that I hope is educational, and one that I bang the drum about because it's true and the very core of misunderstanding or misdiagnosing mental illness - logic plays no part in the illness, so don't try to apply it or insist upon it. If you don't understand mental illness, then don't pontificate as though you know what you're talking about, as some have done online tonight. This is people's lives we're talking about, not a subject for uneducated argument or WUMing.

There, I've said it. Read it a few times. If this strikes a chord with anyone about themselves or someone they know, don't hesitate to PM me.

Cheers, Neil.
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I do understand what you are saying WJ and some of my comments like lock her up may have been a bit harsh and were in fact a knee jerk reaction.
Having said that people in general have to take responsibility for their own actions and the resultant consequence.
Unfortunately in this day and age too many people get away with blue murder by playing this card or the other.
This may or may not be the case here.
The thing that really concerns me is that this kind of think could well affect future giving to other deserving causes.
 
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