leave her there

[J๏E..]

Every ****er that left these shores and the shores and borders of other Countries to join the Islamic State ****, did so because they bought into this **** and wanted to be part of this golden dream, this war they created and hatred of Western values, Christianity and anyone else that didn't follow their 5th Century ideology.

From 2014, remember this?..

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Personally you choose your path in life but this path they chose was one of barbaric murder, genocide with all the trimmings, whether you were the cook, bomb maker or bottle washer, you chose to be in that life. Imo, them people do not deserve to be walking around in a civilised world when they would happily put a child into a car riddled with bombs and get them to drive it into a border patrol. They didn't choose wisely, now they should pay the price for their actions..

 

[Stan]

Because there is no proof that she has done anything.

Apart from join a terroist group and get ploughed by Osama Van Laden

Osama Van Laden!

 

[DUNCAN DONUTS]

The other refugees aren't threatening Begum because she has been on telly ,the other Isis women are threatening to burn her to death because she uncovered her face for the TV cameras.
Uncovering her face is a big no no with Isis but clearly her ugly face will get more sympathy from bleeding heart ****ers than a black sack with a voice.
The women that Isis persecuted are probably not crazy about them staying in the refugee camp either.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

What makes you think she isn't?

I’m a member of the RAC but I’m not a mechanic.

She might be. I’m just not sure she’s committed any actual terrorism which is a significant part of being a terrorist. Call me old-fashioned.

 

[Rorschach]

I’m a member of the RAC but I’m not a mechanic.

She might be. I’m just not sure she’s committed any actual terrorism which is a significant part of being a terrorist. Call me old-fashioned.

The point of joining the RAC or AA is so you don't have to be a mechanic...

Your a football fan, you reflect in any glory or failure that your team has, but I bet you've never played for them...

 

[brb]

So their is no proof of her being a terrorist apart from joining a ...oh!

The definition of terrorism as defined by NATO;

NATO defines terrorism in the AAP-06 NATO Glossary of Terms and Definitions, Edition 2014 as "The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence against individuals or property in an attempt to coerce or intimidate governments or societies to achieve political, religious or ideological objectives".

So does that make us all terrorists as citizens of the UK, when Blair invaded Iraq along with Bush?

Point being Begum has never been proven to use force against any individual, she merely belong to an organisation, much the same as we were party to the Government as individuals when it launched it's attack.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

The point of joining the RAC or AA is so you don't have to be a mechanic...

Your a football fan, you reflect in any glory or failure that your team has, but I bet you've never played for them...

Yes and I’m not culpable for the team’s successes or failures. Failures mostly.

I’m not saying I like that she went out there to be an underage baby machine or that she (perhaps still) sympathises with their cause, but that’s not enough to make her a terrorist, for me.

 

[thefanwithnoname]

Every ****er that left these shores and the shores and borders of other Countries to join the Islamic State ****, did so because they bought into this **** and wanted to be part of this golden dream, this war they created and hatred of Western values, Christianity and anyone else that didn't follow their 5th Century ideology.

From 2014, remember this?..

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Personally you choose your path in life but this path they chose was one of barbaric murder, genocide with all the trimmings, whether you were the cook, bomb maker or bottle washer, you chose to be in that life. Imo, them people do not deserve to be walking around in a civilised world when they would happily put a child into a car riddled with bombs and get them to drive it into a border patrol. They didn't choose wisely, now they should pay the price for their actions..

You keep mentioning Christianity as if that is the standard to live by. Child abuse and killing of Innocents isn't just Muslims

 

[thefanwithnoname]

The definition of terrorism as defined by NATO;

NATO defines terrorism in the AAP-06 NATO Glossary of Terms and Definitions, Edition 2014 as "The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence against individuals or property in an attempt to coerce or intimidate governments or societies to achieve political, religious or ideological objectives".

So does that make us all terrorists as citizens of the UK, when Blair invaded Iraq along with Bush?

Point being Begum has never been proven to use force against any individual, she merely belong to an organisation, much the same as we were party to the Government as individuals when it launched it's attack.

Majority of this returning from Syria havent even been able to be prosecuted, because legally they did nowt wrong

Begum has not committed a crime in English law, as far as is currently the case

 

[brb]

Majority of this returning from Syria havent even been able to be prosecuted, because legally they did nowt wrong

Begum has not committed a crime in English law, as far as is currently the case

Exactly.

 

[Blueman]

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[thefanwithnoname]

Exactly.

They discussed this on Kay Burley show. Turns out going to Syria and becoming an isis bride is not breaking any laws.


Besides isn't the argument that they treat women like second class citizens? In which case she won't have participated in anything and rightly deserves sympathy.

 

[brb]

They discussed this on Kay Burley show. Turns out going to Syria and becoming an isis bride is not breaking any laws.


Besides isn't the argument that they treat women like second class citizens? In which case she won't have participated in anything and rightly deserves sympathy.

Firstly I don't give her sympathy and she is not likely to get it from me, however, i do question Javid's, the media and it's avid followers on the validity and fairness of the claims and actions against her.

It is illegal to trade with or financially support Syria (sanctions), however, I'm not aware of any laws forbidding her from crossing it's borders.

 

[Blueman]

Every ****er that left these shores and the shores and borders of other Countries to join the Islamic State ****, did so because they bought into this **** and wanted to be part of this golden dream, this war they created and hatred of Western values, Christianity and anyone else that didn't follow their 5th Century ideology.

From 2014, remember this?..

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Personally you choose your path in life but this path they chose was one of barbaric murder, genocide with all the trimmings, whether you were the cook, bomb maker or bottle washer, you chose to be in that life. Imo, them people do not deserve to be walking around in a civilised world when they would happily put a child into a car riddled with bombs and get them to drive it into a border patrol. They didn't choose wisely, now they should pay the price for their actions..

Every ****er that left these shores and the shores and borders of other Countries to join the Islamic State ****, did so because they bought into this **** and wanted to be part of this golden dream, this war they created and hatred of Western values, Christianity and anyone else that didn't follow their 5th Century ideology.

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Personally you choose your path in life but this path they chose was one of barbaric murder, genocide with all the trimmings, whether you were the cook, bomb maker or bottle washer, you chose to be in that life. Imo, them people do not deserve to be walking around in a civilised world when they would happily put a child into a car riddled with bombs and get them to drive it into a border patrol. They didn't choose wisely, now they should pay the price for their actions..

Spot on.

 

[thefanwithnoname]

Firstly I don't give her sympathy and she is not likely to get it from me, however, i do question Javid's, the media and it's avid followers on the validity and fairness of the claims and actions against her.

It is illegal to trade with or financially support Syria (sanctions), however, I'm not aware of any laws forbidding her from crossing it's borders.

Tbh I put the sympathy bit in to get another 100 pages.

Poor little lamb

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

Spot on.

Most of it is but it doesn’t explain why she ought to be any country’s burden but ours.

 

[brb]

Tbh I put the sympathy bit in to get another 100 pages.

Poor little lamb

I wouldn't define her as a poor little lamb....unless you mean to the slaughter

 

[thefanwithnoname]

Most of it is but it doesn’t explain why she ought to be any country’s burden but ours.

I watched this programme a while back and a bloke from a terror organisation said pretty much what I read in that post

This guy actually said if soldiers come over to kill us then those who support or feed them etc are legitimate targets. He was referring to the soldiers families and any one else coming out to celebrate the military

 

[J๏E..]

You keep mentioning Christianity as if that is the standard to live by. Child abuse and killing of Innocents isn't just Muslims

I use Christianity as this is a Christian Country and has been for centuries gone by. We have opened up the doors to this Country to people to give them a better chance and a future in a civilised Country. Most accept this and over the last 60 years have lived happily amongst our culture with aires of respect on both sides. You are always going to get your twats on both side of the fence and my point was, that every **** that was sold the dream on the internet and through the media did so as they resented the life they were living and got a buzz from the IS Jihad.. They chose, they lost and now they want sympathy and compassion..

Well so do the ****ing Yazidis who they so brutally butchered..

On a footnote, if you were alive or here in the UK then, the guy in my avatar united Ireland in 1973 through all the troubles by doing a concert in Belfast with both protestant and catholic in attendance. There were no IRA bombs, No UDA shootings, it was people having a great time and enjoying possibly the greatest guitarist imo that lived. People choose the moments to cause devastation, normally through envy, greed or religion..

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

I use Christianity as this is a Christian Country and has been for centuries gone by. We have opened up the doors to this Country to people to give them a better chance and a future in a civilised Country. Most accept this and over the last 60 years have lived happily amongst our culture with aires of respect on both sides. You are always going to get your twats on both side of the fence and my point was, that every **** that was sold the dream on the internet and through the media did so as they resented the life they were living and got a buzz from the IS Jihad.. They chose, they lost and now they want sympathy and compassion..

Well so do the ****ing Yazidis who they so brutally butchered..

On a footnote, if you were alive or here in the UK then, the guy in my avatar united Ireland in 1973 through all the troubles by doing a concert in Belfast with both protestant and catholic in attendance. There were no IRA bombs, No UDA shootings, it was people having a great time and enjoying possibly the greatest guitarist imo that lived. People choose the moments to cause devastation, normally through envy, greed or religion..

It was a Christian country. Fortunately organised religion is overall on the decline.