leave her there

I wasn’t 15 though, I was probably 4 or 5 when I was brainwashed

 

But she would have found out the reality of being female in IS soon enough, where women are stoned, whipped and murdered for offences under Sharia law or trying to escape

 

I’m not making excuses for her

However at 15 you know **** all..you might have done the odd prank. Others kill, rape and some have even been known to abduct kids and murder them. There’s no written rule for it.

She was going into her Teens surrounded by nothing but what you and I have been witnessing when it comes to Islamaphobia over recent years. When you are young you have thoughts but no experience of reality behind them.

She hasn’t killed anyone...she’s said she hates the UK and bought into the ISIS propoganda...just like loads of Teeny boppers say they hate their parents...so what do they do? Rebel.

Best use for her is to be used as Intelligence...learn from her to put it right...on her own she’s irrelevant, nothing....all this hype giving her fame.

 

I wouldn't have been in her camp if that were the case .... but I do spend a lot of time with my kids and we do discuss what goes on in the wider world ... some families (and also cultures) are less open to having such discussions ... for me, education and enlightenment are key to eradicating intolerance, inequality and bigotry ... it encourages you to question ingrained beliefs and assumptions .... religious fanatics of whatever creed and hue generally try to suppress or control education for that very reason ...

 

You wouldn’t have had a tucking clue what’s going on....you reckon she was busy getting brainwashed whilst cooking curry with her mum?

 

Disagree with practically all of this. If she’s old enough to conjure up a plan to fly to Turkey and enter Syria, then she’s not a teeny bopper who doesn’t know what she’s doing.

She’s filled with hate and clearly cannot make a distinction between collateral damage and deliberately targeting innocent lives. No coalition forces are deliberately targeting children or women or any civilians for that matter.

This girl is playing up to the camera and anybody who is believing this **** coming out of her sewage pipe of a mouth is beyond ******ed.

 

@Tel

 

Let me try again

 

I think i would have cottoned on when she made it to Syria mate

 

Let her back, I’d even marry the ****ing tramp and adopt the child before picking them ****s.

 

Ok

I still think using her for intelligence is the only use for her

 

You mean like her parents did?

 

At 15 I knew what was generally right and wrong, mate. If someone messaged me saying “hey join the KKK and **** **** up”, I’d have told them to do one. I wouldn’t have been manipulated into believing the KKK are a righteous group.

How do we know she’s not killed? We don’t know anything about what she’s done in the four years there. She may have just been a breeding puppet, she may have built explosives, she may have tried recruiting, she may have pulled the trigger on someone or pushed the detonator, we literally have no idea. Ultimately, she was part of ISIS and that alone is enough for me to detest her.

 

Or a toilet brush.

 

You think I like her?...I just don’t want to be part of the mob that thinks there’s nothing a good ol gang raping can’t sort out whilst having a very hateful agenda against her kid.

 

That too...reckon work best if head scarf removed

 

There is prejudice everywhere buddy... but joining ISIS is a pretty extreme reaction to the day-to-day stuff, you have to admit? .... HIAG didn't go running off to join the KKK just because some little West Indian kid once laughed at his woggle at scout camp, did he?

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Not sure where we are going with this lol. I answered i would have disowned her when someone asked imagine that was your daughter

 

https://twitter.com/shaminauk

 

This is one of those where I find myself nodding with agreement with both sides.

If she didnt have the bairn I would say ignore her and let her find her own way back. However if getting her back brings her newborn to safety then........
What I do know is that if she gets back here and is out of prison pretty sharpish then I wouldnt like to guarantee her safety. It'll be a canny few steps up from Syria, granted, but it wont be no picnic for her.