1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Off Topic The Politics Thread

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

?

Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2012
    Messages:
    30,905
    Likes Received:
    28,934
    So that’s what Chardonnay means. You learn something new every day.
     
    #28901
    qprbeth, kiwiqpr and Staines R's like this.
  2. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    22,785
    Likes Received:
    11,186
    2 items of news that didn't seem to get reported ... maybe it's because it's good news and doesn't fit in with their doom and gloom.

    Citigroup is in talks to buy its London skyscraper office for about £1.2bn, as the US bank commits its long-term future to the UK despite the political and economic turmoil surrounding Brexit.
    https://www.ft.com/content/4f434dda-320f-11e9-bd3a-8b2a211d90d5

    Brexit: Thousands of UK financial jobs secured after EU regulator recognises London clearing houses
    Paris, Frankfurt and other European financial hubs had hoped to prize lucrative euro-clearing business away from the UK
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...jobs-saved-clearing-houses-esma-a8785521.html
     
    #28902
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2019
    GoldhawkRoad likes this.
  3. DT’s Socks

    DT’s Socks Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2018
    Messages:
    2,287
    Likes Received:
    1,700
    Honda goodbye
     
    #28903
  4. YorkshireHoopster

    YorkshireHoopster Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2012
    Messages:
    3,853
    Likes Received:
    2,855
    I see you've joined most of us already in cloud cuckoo land waiting for principle and integrity to be commonplace among our politicians
     
    #28904
    bobmid and kiwiqpr like this.
  5. YorkshireHoopster

    YorkshireHoopster Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2012
    Messages:
    3,853
    Likes Received:
    2,855
    Doubt you'll get any honest answers. Did anybody admit to supporting UKIP previously?
     
    #28905
  6. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    116,065
    Likes Received:
    232,353
    George Aylett‏Verified account@GeorgeAylett 2h2 hours ago
    Looks like Anna Soubry has removed all references of the Conservative Party from her social media profiles. So maybe it's looking like there could be defections from the Parliamentary Conservative Party, to 'The Independent Group', too... not just a #LabourSplit.pic.twitter.com/WVflJCXGe3
    please log in to view this image
     
    #28906
  7. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    22,785
    Likes Received:
    11,186
    This would be great news. Get rid of her and replace with a decent MP.
     
    #28907
  8. GoldhawkRoad

    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2011
    Messages:
    9,739
    Likes Received:
    3,387
    That black background troubles me. I think she may be joining ISIS
     
    #28908
    Sooperhoop, ELLERS and kiwiqpr like this.
  9. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2011
    Messages:
    14,355
    Likes Received:
    16,159
    Weathers nice though
     
    #28909
    kiwiqpr likes this.
  10. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    22,785
    Likes Received:
    11,186
    Sky has surpassed itself this morning. We hear the sad news of Honda and the job losses. But rather than discuss Honda/Jobs/Future of workforce. They interview a 'remoaner' who blames Brexit.
    The silly ginger girl on Sky asked "I know what the company has said but there must be some link to Brexit"? <doh>

    Even after the statement from the company:
    Honda said the move was due to global changes in the car industry and the need to launch electric vehicles, and it had nothing to do with Brexit.
    and the local MP and spokesperson saying it had nothing to do with Brexit.

    The more I hear crap like this, the more I know that it's all 'project fear'.

    What's sad is that none of them are interested in the workers. They just want some Brexit news. Muppets
     
    #28910

  11. Goldhawk-Road

    Goldhawk-Road Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2018
    Messages:
    11,442
    Likes Received:
    10,832
    The Honda spokesman today could not have been clearer. Brexit was not a factor. The factors were:

    1. Move from diesel

    2. Move to electric as you say, Ellers

    3. The fact that for Honda, the largest markets by a very large margin, are Japan, China and US

    4. The recently signed EU/Japan Trade Deal that means that Honda can manufacture in Japan and export into the EU on zero tariffs.

    There are seismic changes in the car industry taking place worldwide (just ask recession-threatened Germany). None of these have anything to do with Brexit. Notwithstanding this, total assholes like Adonis and Campbell keep insisting a "People's Vote" will solve all problems. They are sad, sad figures, and they are the only people that can't see it.
     
    #28911
    ELLERS likes this.
  12. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2013
    Messages:
    24,612
    Likes Received:
    24,016
    Well number 4 means that Brexit definitely was a factor then.
     
    #28912
  13. Goldhawk-Road

    Goldhawk-Road Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2018
    Messages:
    11,442
    Likes Received:
    10,832
    No, they no longer need to be within the EU to sell without tariffs. So they've gone back to manufacturing in Japan, which is closer to their major markets.
     
    #28913
  14. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2013
    Messages:
    24,612
    Likes Received:
    24,016
    No, the point is that they will no longer be able to sell to the EU without tariffs from the UK. We won't be in the EU, remember?
     
    #28914
  15. Goldhawk-Road

    Goldhawk-Road Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2018
    Messages:
    11,442
    Likes Received:
    10,832
    So why didn't they move to France?
     
    #28915
  16. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,557
    So am I right in thinking that because of this new EU/Japan deal then there is no need to have a factory here (on anywhere in Europe) if Honda factories have capacity back in Japan.
    Still doesnt involve Brexit though surely......just makes sense to Honda financially to move everything back to Japan.
     
    #28916
    Goldhawk-Road likes this.
  17. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2013
    Messages:
    24,612
    Likes Received:
    24,016
    Because, if they are going to move, it makes more sense to move production to Japan. They point is, would they have moved if we weren't leaving the EU? You're being deliberately obtuse, Goldie.
     
    #28917
    QPR Oslo likes this.
  18. danishqp

    danishqp Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    1,152
    Likes Received:
    612
    Probably was a factor in their thinking Stroller.
    However, just one of the parameters. It may or may not have been the tipping point in the TCO, we'll likely never know.
    Honda will probably have had some serious incentives to bring this production back to Japan.
    It is very clear in a substantial amount of industries that the new black is to insource the outsourcing and offshoring that took place in the last 30 years.
     
    #28918
  19. Goldhawk-Road

    Goldhawk-Road Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2018
    Messages:
    11,442
    Likes Received:
    10,832
    Honda made it clear in their statement this morning that the reason for their move from the UK was the major change from diesel to electric cars (which is happening throughout the worldwide car industry) and the huge importance of the Pacific market to them. The only way you could question this statement, Strolls, would be if there had been no Japan/ EU free trade deal and Honda had moved from the UK to Continental Europe.
     
    #28919
  20. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    22,785
    Likes Received:
    11,186
    oh god you will always get the remoaners trying to make a connection to Brexit? <doh>
     
    #28920

Share This Page