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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. DT’s Socks

    DT’s Socks Well-Known Member

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    If she turns over the last result of the deal
    Then it will be a fix up
     
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    It's all about the Tories. They don't give a **** about anyone but themselves. Worst government in my lifetime that's for sure.
     
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    What mates do I have at the EU?
     
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  4. Goldhawk-Road

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    Parliament may not be able to stop no deal. Cooper and Grieve's amendments don't make new law. It could be difficult to convert to law - they would have a day and if Brexiteers filibuster, it won't go through. May is whipping her cabinet, despite Rudd's attempts to get a free vote.

    Second referendum is looking unlikely. The majority of the public in polls say a clear no. May is against it. There is no majority in Parliament for it. Even Corbyn won't say he's for it.

    It's only a matter of time before the EU say to Dublin, you don't need the backstop to last for eternity, and a no-deal could even be existential for the EU given economic problems in many of the member countries and the increasing popularity among electorates for sovereign countries no seeding power to an unaccountable bloc.
     
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    It's the backstop that Tory MP's and the DUP objected to. Put in an end date, and even the ERG said they might vote for May's deal
     
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    Nicely twisted. I noticed you omitted that Labour Stance? ERG don't make up 230 unless you follow the same maths as Diane Abbott?
    As you have said, the Tories are in power and it's their problem. so in essence it's up to them to sort it.
    As for your ridiculous comment about what's best for the country... maybe you should look at the muppets who have not accepted the result and have tried from day one to undermine the will of the people.
    it makes me sick when a bunch of cry babies who lost a vote want to change the laws/constitution/1000 years of democracy to get their undemocratic way instead of supporting their country.
     
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    They will try and change the law to get Brexit suspended or a 'Losers vote" Goldie. Fortunately people are getting sick of the way MP's/media/big business are acting. The more I listen to the radio or watch TV the more I see people growing frustrated and angry because of a few losers who didn't get their own way. They may try but they will fail.
     
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    The more I listen to the News and radio I'm hearing so many don't want a no deal and thank the heavens.
     
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    JRM saying any deal would be better than not leaving at all !! Thought he was supposed to be the clever one . What a tit
     
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    Those MPs that are doing all they can to prevent No Deal are doing it for the good of the country, because they know what a disaster it would be. It's not undermining the will of the people, because no one was even talking about leaving without a deal during the last referendum. If May were to compromise on her red lines, say to adopt a permanent Customs Union, she could get a deal through Parliament easily, and the result of the referendum would be honoured. If May is prepared to risk No Deal, just to pacify the ERG and keep the Tory party together, she is a traitor.
     
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    Exactly that.
     
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    You need to stop watching Newsround and listening to Heart FM.
     
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    <laugh>
    And no one was ever talking about being in the single market or Customs Union? People voted to leave and this is now the latest excuse 'remoaners' are coming up with....Like the "They didn't know what we voted for" crap.
    With every post you are sounding as desperate as Vince Cable. As I said, you need to respect the result even if you don't like it.
     
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    If a bloke goes into a car showroom, and says to the salesman "I want that red car, I must have it and will pay whatever you charge me" - what kind of deal do you think the salesman will offer that mug?
     
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    https://www.newstatesman.com/politi...e-staffer-there-no-mandate-quit-single-market
     
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    Good music on heart
     
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    The will of the people then accepted not today when most people can see the crap people like you haven’t them
     
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    One week or so on and people are actually thinking that the deal on the table is suddenly fine?

    Wake up it will be defeated again and again

    Blue muppets no back bone
     
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    Yeah but you won't find out how people are feeling.
     
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