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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Onionman

    Onionman Well-Known Member

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    Opinion polls are one of those things that people seem to question only when they disagree with the speaker's views. By all means take them with a pinch of salt if you choose (though they tend to hit within their mergins of error) but one area they tend to be *eerily* accurate on is how much opinion is changing on a subject.

    Paddy Ashdown offered to eat his hat because he *didn't* believe a poll that turned out to be right.

    Vin
     
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  2. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Anything interest happening today?

    Nope thought not. As you were.
     
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  3. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Thanks for that.
     
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  4. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    <doh>

    Wasn't supposed to post that here, no wonder there was no response. My bad.
     
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  5. Number 1 Jasper

    Number 1 Jasper Well-Known Member

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    Yes loads .

    Where to start :emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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  6. Number 1 Jasper

    Number 1 Jasper Well-Known Member

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    IF there is another Referendum , it will be Leave by a bigger margin than before .

    Just based on what I am hearing at work .
     
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  7. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    No one knows mate.
     
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  8. ImpSaint

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    Ashdown didn't believe an exit poll that countered all pre vote polling. You are equating that to current pre-vote polling on a referendum that hasn't been announced let alone commenced campaigning. Big difference between an exit poll and other polls. Exit polls are normally much more likely to be accurate. Even then the exit polls were under the actuals. One problem we have had is that the pre polls used to be more accurate than they are now and thus were near enough the same as the exit polls however since 2010 the "shy" vote has increased vote on vote as a section of society has decided that anything but their view is shameful.

    "Exit polls*" on the EU referendum were much closer than polls that had been compiled in the months before the referendum. they still had remain in the lead but it was much closer. A month earlier there were some polls that had remain as much as 18pts in the lead.
    *there weren't exit polls on the referendum per se but there were some done the day before.

    Even on the channel 4 program on that Survation poll John Curtice was trying to play down the enthusiasm of the presenters with caveats and they just ploughed on ignoring him and saying there had been an 8pt swing.

    And we are here now looking at polls outside of a campaigning period and claiming they are more accurate as they are showing a change........

    ..........which means the Tories will easily win an election if held now and remain will surely win a second referendum!!!

    There is however a quiet confidence growing amongst leave groups on what the result of any second referendum might be and while they aren't backing a second referendum they are quietly confident the result would be the same or more.
     
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    See my comment below. I could say it again but it isn't just "folks on the street" to base this on. Plenty of commentators are whispering this as well now (ahould there be another referendum.)
     
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    I agree . I am simply going by what I have heard at work .
     
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  11. VocalMinority

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    Which option?
     
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    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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  14. Number 1 Jasper

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    To Leave as per my post .
     
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  15. VocalMinority

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    Which leave option as per mine.
     
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  16. Number 1 Jasper

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    Hang on . & Sorry .
     
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    Can you show me it please ?
     
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    "I think it will be far more in remain's favour of you actually define what leave means by choosing between no deal and mays deal first."

    Was what you were replying to.
     
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    The Opinion I am hearing more and more is basically " Who do the EU think they are , trying to bully us " , F**k em , I'm voting leave .
     
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  20. ChilcoSaint

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    Whereabouts will they meet to compare notes when their place of work has been shut down?
     
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