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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Spurlock, Jan 2, 2012.

  1. The Changing Man

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    Compare that to what happened to Salah yesterday and convince me that we are talking about a level playing field when it comes to bookings and penalties.
     
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    The NY stock exchange has dropped nearly 1000 points over the Christmas period, nearly as many as Citeh, the chavs and the goons<laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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    Fake News, most of them should have been given as fouls on Bale.
     
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  4. Sucky

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    When you start calling out other teams for diving but your team is top of the diving table.
    please log in to view this image
     
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    Your man Salah is up in front of a disciplinary hearing today. Will you miss him v Goons and Citeh. Not so funny now is it.
     
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  6. Sucky

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    It's still funny that whilst calling out salah for diving your team leads the pack in cheating.<laugh><doh>
    We won't miss mo as much as you'd like (if he is punished, I doubt it as its hardly cut and dry) that's why we have a squad. Unless you're saying we are a one man team. Which is stupid.
     
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  7. The Changing Man

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    As I said to your fellow Mouser



    Compare that to what happened to Salah yesterday and convince me that we are talking about a level playing field when it comes to bookings and penalties - and you know what its like once a player gets a reputation for diving because Suarez like Bale couldn't get a penalty awarded in this country (even when he was being almost assaulted) once he had that reputation.
     
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  8. Sucky

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    I'm not quite sure what you want me to say? Because of bales reputation refs have been stingy with you?

    It's as level a playing field as you'll get I'm afraid. Players dive so much and have done for so long it's basically part of the game now.

    I really don't get your point, you feel hard done by? Please explain.
     
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  9. deedub93

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    It's time for refs to book players for overacting, even when they are fouled, i.e. give a penalty if it is a penalty but book the overacting player as well.
     
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    You should be more concerned about catching Liverpool and making top 4 than about us like I'm more concerned about catching Liverpool than being above you. You don't matter to me, it's catching the top team that matters.
     
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  11. The Changing Man

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    Thats fine I will explain and I am glad that you say that its as level playing field as we are going to get. You were laughing at us for moaning about diving when we have had the most bookings for said offence, but if the rules are interpreted as poles apart as the booking for Bale compared to the penalty award for Mo, then the basis of using the number of bookings to decide who dives most must be as flawed as the thinking of the ref who booked Bale.

    Not saying we hard done by at all, but its amazing how the 'media perception' of a player may help to influence the ref - Bale booked and looking at the video even as a neutral you might suggest that his 'reputation' may have been the deciding factor, then Mo roundly praised (including by me on this very forum) for stayiing in his feet at Bournemouth, goes down shall we say quite easily yesterday and the ref thinks ah thats Mo he stays on his feet if he can it must be a penalty!

    Its just a thought. and for what its worth I agree with you that he shouldn't be banned, there was some contact and therefore its not a definite dive in my book.
     
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    There was also contact when the apple fell on Issac Newton's head. Did he fall to the ground as if he'd been shot and roll around Neymaresque shouting "Gravity Ref". I doubt it.
     
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    The offence is not diving but simulation. Vardy, for example, initiated contact with defenders and then just fell over so it was not dive but he was not fouled.It was still cheating though and he obtained a number of penalties from his theatrics. When he was at last punished for it he had a foul mouthed rant at the referee. There are other forms of simulation that deserve punishment, e.g. the imaginary head injury that causes the ref to stop play when your opponents look like having a goal scoring chance. Next season VAR will hopefully catch out the serial offenders and hand out appropriate punishments but I fear that the favoured ones will still get away with it.
     
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    A sin bin would a good way to highlight an incident like this.
     
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    I would also say football used to be a contact sport. In other words not all contact is a foul. To be a foul it should be clear that the player has been impeded. Not so much referees, but the pundits have appeared to have forgotten this.
     
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  16. The RDBD

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    Sleep easy.

    Not as if you still have games against either this season
    where you beating one is to the real benefit of the other ...
     
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    Could be.

    In data analytics, we would devise a 'cheat success rate' measure.
    All cheating incidents would be source data as follows :

    Cheat-Data = (Game# , Incident# , Player, Club, Penalised = Y/N)

    So for any given time period and club, you would count the number
    of Penalised=Y and divide it by the total number of Cheat-Data.
     
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    It seems the PL and/or FA are charging Salah with the offence
    of opening his parachute at ground level in a public place.
     
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    Refs spokesman Mark Halsey has already said a two match ban is on the cards. It depends who the ex manager and ex player is on the committee. My guess is Kenny Dogleash and Michael Owen.
     
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