Comparison: us with the Gooners

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Chesney < Friedal (or Cudicini or Gomes)
Sagna = Walker
Vermaelen < King
Mertesacker < Dawson
Santos = Ekotto
Song > Parker
Arteta < THudd (or Santos)
Wilshere < Modric
Theo < Lennon
RvP = Adebeyor
Gervinho < VDV



It's a bit difficult, given that the Gooners play a different system to us (so some of my player pairings may be a bit out), but I think what I've put down is fair.

We should safely finish above the Goons this season, on my reckoning.
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Not sure about your team or comparisons, to be honest.
Our first XI is probably Friedel; Corluka, King, Gallas, Assou-Ekotto; Lennon, Sandro, Modric, Bale; van der Vaart; Adebayor, in my opinion.

It's very hard to choose who to compare with who, as we don't use the same system.
You can do a like-for-like with the back four, the keepers and the holding midfielder, but it's a bit messy from there.

It's too early to write off Arsenal.
We'll see how there new signings fare.
 
All joking aside, though, it does demonstrate just how strong we are in depth, even with the players we let go this season (whether on loan or permanently).
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
Not sure about your team or comparisons, to be honest.
Our first XI is probably Friedel; Corluka, King, Gallas, Assou-Ekotto; Lennon, Sandro, Modric; van der Vaart; Adebayor, in my opinion.
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I'm pretty sure we can beat Arsenal with 10 men, partly because they will only have 10 after half-time on current form, but I'd have Bale over Lennon
 
Let me give it a go.

Szczesney > Friedal
Sagna > Walker
Vermaelen < King
Mertesacker < Dawson
Santos < Ekotto
Song > Parker/Sandro (just)
Arteta < Modric
Wilshere < VDV
Theo = Lennon
RvP > Adebeyor
Gervinho < Bale


4 for Arsenal and 6 for Tottenham - Lennon and Walcott are basically the same.

But I'm probably quite biased...
 
SolidSpur, do you really think Song is better than Parker?

I'm really very pleased that we got Parker. He was a standout player in a very poor West Ham side, last season, and I think he's going to thrive among top class players. Look how he fared for England. I think he's one of those players who ups his game when he's got the system around him to accommodate his level of play.
 
PowerSpurs said:
I'm pretty sure we can beat Arsenal with 10 men, partly because they will only have 10 after half-time on current form, but I'd have Bale over Lennon
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I actually missed Bale out completely, going with the invisible man down the left, for some reason.
 
SamirNasriIsAWanker said:
PNP

Didn't you suggest that we should have gone for a player like Mertesacker and get a midfielder like Arteta?

Hmm...

both are quality players, but Mertesacker lacks pace and if that's the case, then our high line will be the death of us.

As for Arteta, as I've said before, a good player, but he's a short-term solution for a long-term problem. He's 29 and probably has 2-3 years left before he leaves Arsenal.

Even after acquiring these signings, I'm still not too optimistic about our chances this season....<ok>
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I did suggest Arteta in my Raid Everton article, but I really don't rate Mertesacker, from what I've seen of him.
Too slow, not particularly strong and it remains to be seen whether he'll adjust to the Premier League.
Good value if he does, though.

Arteta is a short-term solution for a short-term problem.
You've got Wilshere and Ramsey coming through, plus I'm sure there are others behind them.
If he can stay fit, then he'll do a great job bridging the gap between Fabregas and Nasri to the two youngsters.
 
i think arsenal will finish above us, again. it's been what, about 15+ years since we finished above them, i think it'll be business as usual.
 
How long was it that Liverpool finished above us before the last couple of seasons?

I'm not saying that we will definitely finish above Arsenal, but them finishing above us consistently in the recent past just isn't a reason why they'll do so now.
 
SamirNasriIsAWanker said:
With all due respect PNP, I think your lack of Summer investment may be the result in your downfall this season. I think Spurs will finish 5th again, but I'm not sure how long van der Vaart, Modric and Bale will stay at the club if other bigger clubs come calling.

You've done well maintaining Modric after the speculation with Chelsea, but there's still January transfer window AND there's next season where they will most likely try and target him again.
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Well atleast next time they'll realise from the start that they can't mug us off with £22mill bids.
 
Ghoddle10 said:
i think arsenal will finish above us, again. it's been what, about 15+ years since we finished above them, i think it'll be business as usual.
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I'm not so sure. Personally, I think Wenger has lost the plot. As does Hugh McIlvanney, in a very cutting article in today's Sunday Times.
 
I'm definitely with NSS on this.

Arsenal are in complete disarray. I don't think it will be just us, a few teams could finish above them, including the likes of Stoke and Sunderland.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
How long was it that Liverpool finished above us before the last couple of seasons?

I'm not saying that we will definitely finish above Arsenal, but them finishing above us consistently in the recent past just isn't a reason why they'll do so now.
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Fair comments PNP, but it's a very, very good guide IMo

2 seasons hardly compares with 15+ does it? I've no idea what the odds are, but my guess is that Arsenal are favs to finish above us, and they're certainly mine. If we finish within 3 points of them I think we will have done well.
 
SJW19...

So, you disagree that Wenger has lost the plot?
 
NowsufferinginSpain said:
I'm not so sure. Personally, I think Wenger has lost the plot. As does Hugh McIlvanney, in a very cutting article in today's Sunday Times.
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Fair enough NSS, but we seem to have big problems between harry and danny too.

It wouldn't amaze me if we finished above Arsenal, but I can't see it happening this season.
 
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