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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    In all fairness I had to stop watching it. He didn't say anything. Thought it was a poem at first.
     
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  2. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    If you shut it down I won't be running late most mornings
     
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  3. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    You're quite right Nines, that was an unacceptable outburst on my part. My apologies.
     
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  4. QPR Oslo

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    The best solution is surely, as with all the problems with Brexit, that the UK remains in the EU and like other member states manage to get by mostly pretty well, and work to change it where necessary.
     
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  5. Uber_Hoop

    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

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    No, it’s to adopt the same relationship with the EU as your homeland has, Os. Such an arrangement delivers Brexit for the 52% whilst retaining just about all the characteristics of EU membership for the Remainers.

    What’s not to like? It’s a proven model that works.
     
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  6. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

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    Essentially, a large number of people for some unknown reason don’t want to just leave. It has to be their most extreme possible most economically-challenging version of leaving.
     
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  7. QPR Oslo

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    I'd prefer the UK to stay in the EU and contribute to making Europe stronger economically, politically, peacefull and with a better environment. As a 2nd best I hope the UK stays in the EEA, within the single market. Norway is not in the Customs Union.
     
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    My apologies as well Stroller and Nines as I can be silly at times. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  9. BobbyD

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    Easily done boys especially when it escalates or the tone of a msg has been misread

    Good of you two to kiss and make up <ok>
     
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  10. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    I forced myself to listen to this twice and I can only conclude that this guy wants a united Ireland and that if a hard border is reinstated the ones wanting a united Ireland will take up arms again.
    He clearly dislikes anyone from the British government and the unionists.
    I still don't get why a hard border will result in violence, unless it's just an excuse to start up the troubles again. Also, maybe there's just as many living in the north who are looking for the same excuse. I really don't know, because as he rightly says, you need to live there to get it I suppose.
    He says the border is there, yet invisible and I can't believe it's beyond everyone's capability to keep it that way even after we've left.
    Yep, still none the wiser.
     
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  11. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

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    Would a united Ireland not be for the best in the long term anyway?

    Not relating this to Brexit, just a general question, especially if/when the north is majority Catholic.
     
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  12. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    I think it would.
    But this can only happen if the majority in the North want it surely?
     
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  13. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

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    I’m not a big fan of referendums, but if it’s a choice of a united Ireland or being part of a hard Brexit UK, I reckon they’d go for the former in a few years.
     
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    As long as the majority in the North want it then I'm all for it.
     
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    What if, hypothetically, a small majority didn’t want it but it would in actual fact benefit them due to issues they don’t know about or can’t be reasonably expected to understand?
     
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    Thete has to be a referendum imo.
    Majority wins.
     
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    The problem is that a majority would only exist in some parts of Ulster - it would divide the province in half, with the Western part voting for reunification and the Eastern part and Belfast probably voting against. Even if there were an overall majority vote in favour it would split the country.
     
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    There will never be a majority in the North, it's one of the main reasons there's always been 'the troubles'. There are many in the IRA who would start the whole shooting match again at the drop of a hat (preferably with an Orangeman's head still in it) Unless you have lived there you have no idea just how fragile the current peace is. If the Maybot makes the wrong decision it will all kick off again...
     
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  19. I suspect there'll be quite a few people in the South that would disagree with that. Would cost them a bloomin fortune. I can't remember the exact figure but well over 50% of jobs in the North are in the public sector.
     
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    But if it did kick off again who's fault would it be. Would para militaries use brexit as an excuse?
     
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