Mourinho needs to go

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Hoddle Is A God said:
Yep.

Remember when he gave that snide little laugh on National TV in reply to a question about Willan being poached after he'd had a medical with us?

You thought that was funny, at the time, but now you seem to have "woken up and smelt the coffee" about what a classless act it was, yeah?
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BobbyD said:
I know what you are saying but it depends if he thinks he can win things with spurs. I'm not convinced he thinks that after the summer you have had and everyone else improving.

Will levy give him the money to spend with this stadium debt and the whole stadium moving fiasco? Not to the levels to challenge.

I agree about real being his dream move but that's 2 years down the line and who knows if lopetugui will have rebuilt them properly. Might as well increase his own chances at united and image another team in his fashion.

Not sure united will go with poch though. It's Woodward and he will probably want a big name
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I think if Poch honestly felt he couldn't eventually win stuff with us, he wouldn't have signed the new contract a few months back. It wouldn't make sense for him to essentially settle with standing still at a time where his stock is relatively high. If he saw no possible progression with us, he could've easily resigned/ announced his intention to leave and likely got the Real job once Zidane left.

Don't think his rep will change much if he were to go Utd right now as he'll need a couple years worth of rebuilding. As I've said previously, he's put himself in the position where his next step as a manager is to win things, not go back and rebuild/ improve another club, he's done that with Espanyol, Saints and now us, should he leave Spurs anytime soon, his next move has to be a side already primed to challenge for titles and trophies, otherwise it's essentially sidewards/ backwards step.
 
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Dier Hard said:
I think if Poch honestly felt he couldn't eventually win stuff with us, he wouldn't have signed the new contract a few months back. It wouldn't make sense for him to essentially settle with standing still at a time where his stock is relatively high. If he saw no possible progression with us, he could've easily resigned/ announced his intention to leave and likely got the Real job once Zidane left.

Don't think his rep will change much if he were to go Utd right now as he'll need a couple years worth of rebuilding. As I've said previously, he's put himself in the position where his next step as a manager is to win things, not go back and rebuild/ improve another club, he's done that with Espanyol, Saints and now us, should he leave Spurs anytime soon, his next move has to be a side already primed to challenge for titles and trophies, otherwise it's essentially sidewards/ backwards step.
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United is still a huge step up from Spurs, regardless of finishing above them for 2 seasons.
 
PISKIE said:
Wow, HIAG still bitter about a comment Bod made back in 2013 <laugh>
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It’s nothing to do with what Bod did or didn’t write on this board. It’s about Mourhino sniggering like a snide on National TV.
 
The Liebherr Legacy said:
United is still a huge step up from Spurs, regardless of finishing above them for 2 seasons.
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In terms of stature of course, they're miles bigger than us but in terms of progression as a manager, it's not a forward step for him - unless he hit jackpot with them in his first season which is unlikely in my opinion.

Utd are nowhere near City's level, while Chelsea and Pool have also gone up a notch from last season. There's likely a solid three-year rebuilding period needed at Utd before they can start getting back to title winning form. For me, that's too long for Poch to wait, he may as well just stick with Spurs when considering that timespan. That's why I think it's sidewards step for him right now, to have rebuilt and improved Spurs over the process of four years then leave and repeat the process with Utd just doesn't make sense to me.
 
The Liebherr Legacy said:
United is still a huge step up from Spurs, regardless of finishing above them for 2 seasons.
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I don’t think it is.

It used to be, but not any more.

We are on the brink of greatness, and Poch wants to be at the helm when it happens.

As for United, I predicted a while back that that club will reside in Fergie’s shadow for a very long time. People so quickly forget that the only reason why United dominated the modern game is because of him.
 
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Dier Hard said:
In terms of stature of course, they're miles bigger than us but in terms of progression as a manager, it's not a forward step for him - unless he hit jackpot with them in his first season which is unlikely in my opinion.

Utd are nowhere near City's level, while Chelsea and Pool have also gone up a notch from last season. There's likely a solid three-year rebuilding period needed at Utd before they can start getting back to title winning form. For me, that's too long for Poch to wait, he may as well just stick with Spurs when considering that timespan. That's why I think it's sidewards step for him right now, to have rebuilt and improved Spurs over the process of four years then leave and repeat the process with Utd just doesn't make sense to me.
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I disagree, they've got a deeper/better squad and are less likely to have to sell players. All this talk of 3 years rebuilding is nonsense imo. He was also taking you from a lower starting point than he will be them (presumably!).

He will know too that the man who delivers the first post Fergie title will become a bit of legend up there.

Hoddle Is A God said:
I don’t think it is.

It used to be, but not any more.

We are on the brink of greatness, and Poch wants to be at the helm when it happens.

As for United, I predicted a while back that that club will reside in Fergie’s shadow for a very long time. People so quickly forget that the only reason why United dominated the modern game is because of him.
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Nonsense, you've had your golden period and it will go tits up over the next year or so.
 
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Skylarker said:
This.

Suarez literally carried that team, gave Rodgers a reputation that is totally wrong.

I think if Liverpool won the title that year that would have been one of the biggest individual achievements in sporting history.
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You didn’t though. Just reminding you.
 
The Liebherr Legacy said:
I disagree, they've got a deeper/better squad and are less likely to have to sell players. All this talk of 3 years rebuilding is nonsense imo. He was also taking you from a lower starting point than he will be them (presumably!).

He will know too that the man who delivers the first post Fergie title will become a bit of legend up there.
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I don't think they have a better squad. In terms of XIs, their keeper and centre midfield are better, while we best them with defence, attacking midfield and striker. Going into depth it's relatively even, both sides lack a good backup striker but have a few good squad players elsewhere, although nowhere near as many as the likes of City, or even Chelsea.

The starting point you mention is irrelevant when you consider the gap in quality between Utd and City, it's probably the furthest it's ever been in City's favour and while Pep is there and being bankrolled by Mansour, I don't see that changing, regardless of who manages Utd, whether that be Poch or someone else.
 
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Dier Hard said:
I don't think they have a better squad. In terms of XIs, their keeper and centre midfield are better, while we best them with defence, attacking midfield and striker. Going into depth it's relatively even, both sides lack a good backup striker but have a few good squad players elsewhere, although nowhere near as many as the likes of City, or even Chelsea.

The starting point you mention is irrelevant when you consider the gap in quality between Utd and City, it's probably the furthest it's ever been in City's favour and while Pep is there and being bankrolled by Mansour, I don't see that changing, regardless of who manages Utd, whether that be Poch or someone else.
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Pep and City won't go on a long period of dominance imo, they'll win it again this year and then he'll leave end of next I reckon.
 
The Liebherr Legacy said:
Pep and City won't go on a long period of dominance imo, they'll win it again this year and then he'll leave end of next I reckon.
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I dunno, Pep did mention he was looking to stay at City long term, could be bollocks of course (although he did sign a new deal) but realistically where would he go if he left? He's 'completed' Spain and Germany, while I don't think Ligue 1 or Serie A are big enough for him, they're the weakest leagues out of Europe's top five. This City side has the potential to go on a spell of dominance, not saying Fergie level dominance but a spell that could see the title in the blue end of Manchester for a number of years.
 
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The Liebherr Legacy said:
Nonsense, you've had your golden period and it will go tits up over the next year or so.
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Just as we are about to take deliver of the best stadium in World footy, yeah?

Oh, wait! I get it, mate... you’re going to post a piccy of a net now, aren’t you!

My bad, mate! <laugh>
 
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