Off Topic Why is BBC4 TV such a brilliant DOCUMENTARY channel ?

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C'mon ref said:
Been watching it on the BBC I Player and enjoyed ever minute, I knew about her song writing along with Gerry Goffin, and I also knew about James Taylor's involvement with many of Carole's songs, but I thought that some of the backing vocals were done by Carly Simon, who was married to James Taylor at one point. I was surprised to see that it wasn't Carly but Joni Mitchell, I've downloaded it and its available for the next 29 days to me, so I hope to watch it again before it expires. Both dennisboothstash and I went to Hull's New Theatre, not together, to see the show based on Carole Kings life through her songs, I think I can say that both dennis and I enjoyed the show, in my case I enjoyed it so much I went back the next night to see it again, Mrs Ref wasn't bothered. It's still the Lennon/McCartney mob for me as top of the pops, but Carole King is not far off.
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I hadn't realized Carole King had written the lyrics to so many other US performers songs I used to listen to in the late 50's, early 60's. Many of them ended up as big hits in the States, some were high in the charts in the UK also.
My father had been in the Merch Navy during the war, and one of his pals stayed in the Merch after the war, his son being a mate of mine at school (same age). His dad used to bring loads of vinyl home from New York after his trips there, so I got to listen to a lot of Yank music & recorded many tunes on my dad's old reel-to-reel tape deck.
My missus ( I met over here) loved Carole King and pointed out CK's input into other artists success. She was very prolific.
You're right, the documentary is definitely worth several viewings.
I found a copy of the documentary on YouTube. It's slightly distorted audio wise ( that's how some of these geeks manage to get around the BBC's restrictions on putting their stuff onto Youtube these days).
Glad you enjoyed the show.
 
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C'mon ref said:
Been watching it on the BBC I Player and enjoyed ever minute, I knew about her song writing along with Gerry Goffin, and I also knew about James Taylor's involvement with many of Carole's songs, but I thought that some of the backing vocals were done by Carly Simon, who was married to James Taylor at one point. I was surprised to see that it wasn't Carly but Joni Mitchell, I've downloaded it and its available for the next 29 days to me, so I hope to watch it again before it expires. Both dennisboothstash and I went to Hull's New Theatre, not together, to see the show based on Carole Kings life through her songs, I think I can say that both dennis and I enjoyed the show, in my case I enjoyed it so much I went back the next night to see it again, Mrs Ref wasn't bothered. It's still the Lennon/McCartney mob for me as top of the pops, but Carole King is not far off.
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Was indeed a great show at Theatre
I’ll have to give this documentary a watch too then
Cheers
 
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dennisboothstash said:
Was indeed a great show at Theatre
I’ll have to give this documentary a watch too then
Cheers
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On a different note Dennis, have you tried to get a DVD of the full show? Not necessarily the Hull show but even the Broadway version doesn't appear to be available. I have tried the usual outlets, Amazon, E-Bay, and even typed in my request in search engines. A CD of the songs is available which is even more puzzling, the show has been running what, 4,5 years now I thought that a DVD would have been available by now.
 
C'mon ref said:
On a different note Dennis, have you tried to get a DVD of the full show? Not necessarily the Hull show but even the Broadway version doesn't appear to be available. I have tried the usual outlets, Amazon, E-Bay, and even typed in my request in search engines. A CD of the songs is available which is even more puzzling, the show has been running what, 4,5 years now I thought that a DVD would have been available by now.
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I haven't to be honest

I'm not sure how it works with shows like that and whether they keep it off DVD to encourage people to actually see it? Not sure
 
"Francesco's Mediterranean Voyage"...
Enjoyable series,

He always reminds me of Gianfranco Zola in looks (not his hair colour of course).
 
C'mon ref said:
Been watching it on the BBC I Player and enjoyed every minute, I knew about her song writing along with Gerry Goffin, and I also knew about James Taylor's involvement with many of Carole's songs, but I thought that some of the backing vocals were done by Carly Simon, who was married to James Taylor at one point. I was surprised to see that it wasn't Carly but Joni Mitchell, I've downloaded it and its available for the next 29 days to me, so I hope to watch it again before it expires. Both dennisboothstash and I went to Hull's New Theatre, not together, to see the show based on Carole Kings life through her songs, I think I can say that both dennis and I enjoyed the show, in my case I enjoyed it so much I went back the next night to see it again, Mrs Ref wasn't bothered. It's still the Lennon/McCartney mob for me as top of the pops, but Carole King is not far off.
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Great stuff ,i really enjoyed it Didnt know she wrote the Crickets dont ever change I still cant see what what fans see in James Taylor as a singer .He made a right lash up of a great 60s hit Handyman He would drive me into depression Saying that it appears our Casser wasnt the best at picking a decent partner
 
dennisboothstash said:
Both brilliant
Really wish the Last Testament play would come back. It was superb live
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Never yet heard a convincing Hull accent from an actor/actress who is not from these parts (not that it's an issue which worries the rest of the country who watched it).

Odd that the sad final years of Lillian Bilocca were only briefly mentioned and no real focus on why she was shunned as she was. Maybe doesn't fit Peake's agenda?

Would like to have seen trawler owners interviewed and called to account.

Cracking 90 mins of tv though.
 
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City Man said:
Never yet heard a convincing Hull accent from an actor/actress who is not from these parts (not that it's an issue which worries the rest of the country who watched it).

Odd that the sad final years of Lillian Bilocca were only briefly mentioned and no real focus on why she was shunned as she was. Maybe doesn't fit Peake's agenda?

Would like to have seen trawler owners interviewed and called to account.

Cracking 90 mins of tv though.
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Neil Armstrong may well have delivered the same sentiment with his famous quote...
"That's one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind".
The emphasis is intentional, yet telling.
 
City Man said:
Never yet heard a convincing Hull accent from an actor/actress who is not from these parts (not that it's an issue which worries the rest of the country who watched it).

Odd that the sad final years of Lillian Bilocca were only briefly mentioned and no real focus on why she was shunned as she was. Maybe doesn't fit Peake's agenda?

Would like to have seen trawler owners interviewed and called to account.

Cracking 90 mins of tv though.
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On the accent bit. Tom Courtenay had quite a difficult time disguising his Hull brogue in all he did. Always under the surface.
 
City Man said:
Never yet heard a convincing Hull accent from an actor/actress who is not from these parts (not that it's an issue which worries the rest of the country who watched it).

Odd that the sad final years of Lillian Bilocca were only briefly mentioned and no real focus on why she was shunned as she was. Maybe doesn't fit Peake's agenda?

Would like to have seen trawler owners interviewed and called to account.

Cracking 90 mins of tv though.
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She (and presumably the director) allowed the "people" to speak. It was a 1/2 hour documentary.
No need for more to be said. M.P.'s agenda is/was not hidden. A strange observation ?
 
tigerscanada said:
Neil Armstrong may well have delivered the same sentiment with his famous quote...
"That's one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind".
The emphasis is intentional, yet telling.
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Except Neil Armstrong didn't say that. He said ""That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind."
Which is tautology. To be fair he had a lot in his mind at the moment.
 
Barchullona said:
Except Neil Armstrong didn't say that. He said ""That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind."
Which is tautology. To be fair he had a lot in his mind at the moment.
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He intended to say "..one small step for a man..." but muffed the word. I always wondered whether the slight gap before "one giant leap" was a split second thought of "bugger, messed that up, do I say it again?"
 
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brownbagtiger said:
He intended to say "..one small step for a man..." but muffed the word. I always wondered whether the slight gap before "one giant leap" was a split second thought of "bugger, messed that up, do I say it again?"
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Wondered that as well. Never registered when watching at the time that what he said didn't make sense.
 
Started watching Plague on Saturday night.
It's looking pretty good.
BBC 4 are good at putting on these foreign dramas.
Great chanbel
 
Julian Edelman said:
Started watching Plague on Saturday night.
It's looking pretty good.
BBC 4 are good at putting on these foreign dramas.
Great chanbel
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Always look forward to the BBC subtitled series at 9pm on a Saturday but don't think I will be as kken on this one as some others.
 
Barchullona said:
Except Neil Armstrong didn't say that. He said ""That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind."
Which is tautology. To be fair he had a lot in his mind at the moment.
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The reason for me including the highlighted "a" was a result of Armstrong's own follow up comments after he had returned to earth...

Geoff Hurst's goal/no-goal comes to mind

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/one-small-misstep/
 
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