clearly alisson will shoot into his own net 8 times.out of.pure boredom.
I should at this point remind all that city actually got 100 points last year as well...
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clearly alisson will shoot into his own net 8 times.out of.pure boredom.
I should at this point remind all that city actually got 100 points last year as well...
Trent will end up in midfield - he strikes the ball Beckham-esque. He has pace and can tackle,; he has sublime control and caresses the ball: he will be fine, wait and see.
Ironic from the man who wants us to win ugly.
I want us to win full stop. Win ugly if we can’t win beautifully.
I used to want Trent to be moved in midfield but now I want him to remain as right back because I think he can become the best player in the world in that position.
He’s already one of the best in the league - within 2 years, he could genuinely be world class.
i agree with we probably need 90 pts for a title chance as don't see city getting 100 again but wont drop many points. just disagreed with how you got to 90pts.
putting it as needing 30 wins was not realistic, as we will probably draw at least 5 games and lose a few.
So you don't mind alisson potentially throwing points away then if he makes enough assists
you doing a diego and moving the goal posts on each post you make.
i disagreed with your silly point of needing 30 wins, nothing else.
26-12-0 sounds like what arsenal won the league with as invincibles.
city 32-4-2.. 100 points.
I think we ought to just let that settle in there. the scale of the challenge becomes stark.
However....
Take it in blocks. block 1 thus far 9 points out of possible 9 and 1 games to come.
We had no perfect blocks last season .If we just draw v leicester we would be on trend for 90 points.
nope.
I'm was pointing out as i have done to the fanboy that we are able to criticise the keeper for taking silly risks. my next core point was we need to get 90 points and if the players flute about like that every game they wont get it. I also pointed out clearly that klopp gave his opinion on the thing and it wasn't positive.
It seems however that seeing i'm 100% right that taking risks with virtually no reward at the end of it is not being denied really this boils down to the new favoured player (of some) cannot be critiqued at all.... Astro and jimmy are now alisson fan boys pure and simple. he's the greatest ever player in the history of LFC, modern football us ould lads wouldn't understand etc etc.
If anything its them that have ignored the core point on alisson (and btw ignored my compliments of the guy too) cos the y don't want to hear anything but he is awesome.
Is the same thing flipped with lovren. don't want to hear anything good about the guy whatsoever.
the thing was my point on 30 wins was pure convenience and you've focused on that rather than the core point of 90 points really... i don't really give a crap about how we get 90points. its not important.
"the thing was my point on 30 wins was pure convenience and you've focused on that rather than the core point of 90 points really..."
because you posted it ffs.
i have already agree we probably need 90pts, just disagreed on how we got there as you was being unrealistic about it. not sure what the rest of the waffle has to do with my point either.
because you posted it ffs.
i have already agree we probably need 90pts, just disagreed on how we got there as you was being unrealistic about it. not sure what the rest of the waffle has to do with my point either.
But MITO, you’re not seeing the reward. You’re assuming that because he didn’t beat another 5 players and got an assist which led to a goal, that there’s no reward.
The reward is that we kept possession which allows us to start another attack. That is the philosophy.
Granted, it didn’t lead to a goal but the intent is there and we should stay true to it. The moment we start hoofing the ball is when we start to lose control and put ourselves under more pressure.
The reward is that we kept possession which allows us to start another attack. That is the philosophy.
Granted, it didn’t lead to a goal but the intent is there and we should stay true to it. The moment we start hoofing the ball is when we start to lose control and put ourselves under more pressure.
Lol fanboys. You’re cry arseing about our keeper showing great skill to beat a player and kept possession, instead of launching it up field.
It was good skill. Whether it was necessary or not, is open to debate.
One thing we can all agree on is that the guy has big bollocks to try that. Which you need to play for Liverpool
Better tell the goalie not to take unnecessary risks then.I want us to win full stop. Win ugly if we can’t win beautifully.
show the reward then....
while he is pissing about and our team is out of shape, nobody is able to move to the next phase.
when the ball is clearly at his feet for example salah can make a run into the right wing channel and has confidence in alisson finding him.
There is a slight difference between say Rafa's approach to corners and klopps but not huge. Its again risk and reward. Look to where firmino is placed from corners now, look to where salah and mane are placed. Firmino is bang in middle of 6 yard box. mane and salah are placed slightly wide and edge of box type area to get ball and break if its on or to clear if needed.
Here is the CORE point. When a ball is clear out as far as salah's zone he knows the team is in transition, they are getting up and out of the box to play opponents offside etc etc. He knows if he pisses about and loses it we are wide open so he will make his decision on whether to try break or merely clear the ball based on where opponents are and the risk he sees.
Now... we have a GK who in one case is in his 6 yard box doing a little turn to beat a man and knock a pass across the mouth of his goal to the RCB. he gets caught by murray late. there's no next ball on for the RCB necessarily. So alisson needs to judge the risk better. He clearly got away with one there as player was closer than he thought.
we then have him expecting a good back pass and its poor. he chooses to chip it over the guys head rather than clear it and ball out the passer.
Now sorry but on the first clearly he's not seen the risk fully and knows what he wanted to go do and just about gets it done. On the second he's just taken a huge risk when we are 1-0 up for virtually no reason
The point once more is this... if the philosphy is different depdning on what player we are talking about it doesn't work.
Not one person has brought up the obvious here. When lovren ****s up trying to keep a ball in (and i clearly remember him doing that once) he was savaged... and BY YOU ESPECIALLY
So one rule for one guy and one for another?
Its this simple. If a full back, or centre back is facing the wrong way and has a guy coming onto him the clear preference in our side is put it out and get reset. You don't know who is behind you, you don't ant a blind pass an forward can intercept... why? cos the risk outweighs the reward.
so i say again... Alisson was facing the play. the pass was short. if he has seen a ball to play and chipped the guy then played it we would all be gooing over it. he didn't, he just did it just because. I am very sure klopp's had a word on it.