Transfer Rumours Transfer Rumours - Summer 2018

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What profit? We have spent the Van Dijk profit. In fact you just reminded me that Carrillo's signing is worse that just his wages as he was signed to a relatively short contract, so his transfer cost per year is high wiping out a big chunk of the Van Dijk money in accounting terms.

That's not how FFP works. Please look up what profit on player sales means in the context of FFP.
 
Fulham and Wolves have had very productive summers. Now i fully appreciate that guarantees nothing but these teams coming up are not looking like the usual relegation fodder.

Its a big warning that clubs like us and about half the league cannot afford anything less than high quality transfer window else we are gone.
 
Fulham and Wolves have had very productive summers. Now i fully appreciate that guarantees nothing but these teams coming up are not looking like the usual relegation fodder.

Its a big warning that clubs like us and about half the league cannot afford anything less than high quality transfer window else we are gone.

Huddersfield, Bmouth, Brighton, Watford, Burnley, Palace have all come up in the last, what, four years - and are all still here.

In the same period, WBA, Stoke, Villa, Sunderland, Swansea have all gone down.

Just as it's become very difficult for relegation sides to come back up in recent years, you're also seeing "lesser" clubs coming up and surviving.

I give Fulham and Wolves a real chance of still being here next season, and I know I'm not the only one.
 
Absolutely - probably relegation fodder is an unfair term to use for recent seasons. Clubs coming up are increasingly getting it right and the trap door awaits for anyone dithering about in the prem.
 
No one is saying that, all that is being discussed is if 20m and paying half wages effect us that much than something is up

Er, some people have pretty much said precisely that while discussing our financial situation. I'm not trying to shut anyone down but c'mon, to quote another forum poster, this is internet randoms going around in circles discussing things they have little to no actual information about.

Roll on Sunday and our first win of the new campaign :1980_boogie_down:
 
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Byran to Fulham now as nipped in at last minute to take away from Villa. Guess Targett will be staying now?
 
Absolutely - probably relegation fodder is an unfair term to use for recent seasons. Clubs coming up are increasingly getting it right and the trap door awaits for anyone dithering about in the prem.

Clubs coming up have Championship Squads, they HAVE to spend big money to upgrade for a more challenging league. They also have the advantage of momentum and the excitement of a new project - a new 5 year plan if you will. That was us a few seasons ago now. We have a premier league squad - in need of a new player, maybe two - so we aren't spending 100m like Wolves. We aren't a basket case, so we're not throwing out babies and bathwater like West Ham. We aren't living under a strangling tyrant like Newcastle.
 
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It'll be interesting to see how much of a masterstroke the FL have pulled by keeping their loan window open until the end of the month.

Clearly they won't be picking up the players who Utd and Chelsea etc have failed to offload, but they could well benefit from sides like us. Maybe Hughes really does want to integrate the likes of Gallagher and Reed into the first team this season. But maybe it's that the Championship sides haven't yet come in, because they know if they wait until after 5pm tomorrow, they increase their chances of getting them for a lower loan cost. It unlikely that anyone from abroad will come in for them, so loaning to the FL would be our only alternative to paying their entire wages until at least January.

Someone like Fraser could end up joining a Championship club on 31 August, for an absolute fraction of his full wage. But, say, a 20% saving on his wages would still be better than nothing for us.
 
God I was feeling great till I came here.

More wine I think is needed, even though it is midweek.

Oh and though there was a question asked earlier "Am I the only one never to take drugs", I'm not sure if I should think you all are on it, or break my virginity and join you.

You know we haven't kicked off yet? We still have 38 games to play?
 

Nope, definitely not just us. This is the downside of the PL revenues skyrocketing: mid-tier PL salaries now vastly outstrip any other league, making it very hard to find takers for middling players.

What that means is that you have a real incentive to pursue quality over quantity. Signing 'cheap' players and then handing them 50-60k p/w ceases to be cheap when you have a tonne of them that you cannot move on.
 
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Er, some people have pretty much said precisely that while discussing our financial situation. I'm not trying to shut anyone down but c'mon, to quote another forum poster, this is internet randoms going around in circles discussing things they have little to no actual information about.

Roll on Sunday and our first win of the new campaign :1980_boogie_down:
Peach saying the Carillo deal is holding us back is something though. Not just random ****, a guy that has mostly probably been told that by the club
 
Looking forward to the Jeremy Wilson article tomorrow saying something along the lines of "We tried, Carrillo held us back, Cortese's fault"
 
The other thing is if 20m for Carillo is holding us back that much. Than 1) who ever sanctioned it should be fired and 2) we are increasingly looking like we can't compete in the Prem. The clubs coming up spending like crazy will very quickly catch us up.

Exactly. This is why IMO Reed needs to go.

If we can’t spend, fine. But we are doing a crap job with the money we do have.
 
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