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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
No no no Beef is what is it anywhere in the world Told you before they like fat on their meat

They like goose fat duck fat pork fat lamb fat
Butter fat fatty faux fat horse fat calf fat bird fat skins tripe fat winkle fat and dollop fat

Farmers produce food to the demand
Let’s hope argiculture is backed in the U.K. after Brexit ... there is enough space but a shortage of skills.

Look at younger people you know could they be farmers ?
I believe it also has to do with the amount of time they hang the meat. The meat is poor in France. I have been in many regions and all types of restaurants and being a steak eater I know what is good and not. Sadly France is poor.
 
We only import 4% from Oz
It’s still second to NZ as source of imports. If we all bought British we wouldn’t need to import anything from them. And we would be doing the planet a favour too. Or is the point of Brexit to prop up other countries exports?

I’m now confused again.

Best steak is Japanese, but that’s marbled with fat which melts when it is cooked.

Has to be said Connemara lamb is superb as well.
 
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It’s still second to NZ as source of imports. If we all bought British we wouldn’t need to import anything from them. And we would be doing the planet a favour too. Or is the point of Brexit to prop up other countries exports?

I’m now confused again.

Best steak is Japanese, but that’s marbled with fat which melts when it is cooked.
Why are you confused every country imports and exports. We have goods from Japan/China/Australia and so on . All it means is that quantity is increased.
I have championed for many years that the UK needs to be more self-sufficient. Plenty of land to grow (when they are not building houses). They are saying now is a great time to set up a business. I see many small holdings being created. I have even thought about investing in a microbrewery myself. Who needs cheap EU beer when you can have a pint of 'Ellers Ale' :emoticon-0167-beer:
 
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Why are you confused every country imports and exports. We have goods from Japan/China/Australia and so on . All it means is that quantity is increased.
I have championed for many years that the UK needs to be more self-sufficient. Plenty of land to grow (when they are not building houses). They are saying now is a great time to set up a business. I see many small holdings being created. I have even thought about investing in a microbrewery myself. Who needs cheap EU beer when you can have a pint of 'Ellers Ale' :emoticon-0167-beer:

<laugh> I'd buy a case of that, Ellers! You could spike a bottle with Dulcolax and send it to Herr Junckers...
 
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Right I am off out. I have been invited fishing off the rocks by some French bloke. Little does my EU friend know that I am going to take some fish out of their waters in response to what they do to us. Wish me luck!
 
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I believe it also has to do with the amount of time they hang the meat. The meat is poor in France. I have been in many regions and all types of restaurants and being a steak eater I know what is good and not. Sadly France is poor.

Depends where you buy and where you eat old kiddy
Locally I always have a fresh burger thingy never a faux filet
If I travel 10k then you get to eat the best
The very best nothing close in the U.K. to come close but it starts at €135 and you are there for 3 hours minimum
The Fleur is a standard place I walk to
See how that matches to a standard place in the U.K. different gear so my point is a beef based dish in France is religiously good

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Resta...es_Restaurant-Olargues_Herault_Occitanie.html
 
Visas for my next holiday then just great
broaden your horizons bob
The following countries do not require British passport holders
to obtain a visa prior to travel (last updated 16 December 2017):


Anguilla
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Argentina
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Aruba
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Austria
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Bahamas
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Barbados
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Belgium
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Tourist for stays up to 90 days

Belize
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Tourist : for stays up to 30 days

Bermuda
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Tourist : for an unlimited stay

Botswana
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Brazil
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British Virgin Islands
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Canada
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Cayman Islands
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Chile
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Colombia
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Cook Islands
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Costa Rica
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Croatia
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Czech Republic
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Denmark
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Dominica (Commonwealth of)
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Ecuador
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Falkland Islands
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Fiji
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Finland
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France
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Gambia
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Germany
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Greece
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Grenada
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Guyana
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Haiti
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Honduras
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Hungary
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IcelandBusiness: for stays up to 3 months
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Irish RepublicBusiness: for an unlimited stay
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Italy
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Jamaica
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Japan
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Kiribati
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Korea (South)Business: for stays up to 90 days
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Lesotho
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Liechtenstein
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Luxembourg
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MalawiBusiness: for stays up to 90 days
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Malaysia
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Mauritius
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Mexico
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Micronesia (Federal State of)Business: for stays up to 30 days
Tourist : for stays up to 30 days

Montenegro (Republic of)Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days


Montserrat
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Tourist : for stays up to 3 months


Namibia
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Tourist : for stays up to 3 months

NetherlandsBusiness: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Neth. Antilles

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New Zealand
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Tourist : for stays up to 180 days

Norway
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Paraguay
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Peru
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Philippines
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Poland
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PortugalBusiness: for stays up to 90 days
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Samoa Island
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San Marino
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Serbia (Republic of)
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Seychelles
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Singapore
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South Africa
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Spain
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St Lucia
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St Vincent/the Grenadines
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Sweden
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Switzerland
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Thailand
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TongaBusiness: Visa Required
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Trinidad & Tobago
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Tunisia
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Turks & Caicos Islands
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Ukraine
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Uruguay
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Vanuatu
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Vatican City
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Venezuela
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broaden your horizons bob
The following countries do not require British passport holders
to obtain a visa prior to travel (last updated 16 December 2017):

Anguilla
Business: for stays up to 3 months
Tourist : for stays up to 3 months

Argentina
Business: for stays up to 3 months
Tourist : for stays up to 3 months

Aruba
Business: for stays up to 30 days
Tourist : for stays up to 30 days

Austria
Business: for an unlimited stay
Tourist : for an unlimited stay

Bahamas
Business: for stays up to 8 months
Tourist : for stays up to 8 months

Barbados
Business: for stays up to 6 months
Tourist : for stays up to 6 months

Belgium
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist for stays up to 90 days

Belize
Business: for stays up to 30 days. Must present letter of invitation on arrival.
Tourist : for stays up to 30 days

Bermuda
Business: for an unlimited stay
Tourist : for an unlimited stay

Botswana
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Brazil
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

British Virgin Islands
Business: for stays up to 30 days
Tourist : for stays up to 30 days

Canada
Business: for stays up to 6 months
Tourist : for stays up to 6 months

Cayman Islands
Business: for stays up to 30 days
Tourist : for stays up to 30 days

Chile
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Colombia
Business: for an unlimited stay
Tourist : for an unlimited stay

Cook Islands
Business: for stays up to 31 days
Tourist : for stays up to 31 days

Costa Rica
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Croatia
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Czech Republic
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Denmark
Business: for stays up to 3 months
Tourist : for stays up to 3 months

Dominica (Commonwealth of)
Business: for stays up to 3 months
Tourist : for stays up to 3 months

Ecuador
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Falkland Islands
Business: for an unlimited stay
Tourist : for an unlimited stay

Fiji
Business: for stays up to 4 months
Tourist : for stays up to 4 months

Finland
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

France
Business: for an unlimited stay
Tourist : for an unlimited stay

French Polynesia
Business: for stays up to 3 months
Tourist : for stays up to 3 months

Gambia
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Germany
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Greece
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Grenada
Business: for stays up to 3 months
Tourist : for stays up to 3 months

Guyana
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Haiti
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Honduras
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Hungary
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

IcelandBusiness: for stays up to 3 months
Tourist : for stays up to 3 months

Irish RepublicBusiness: for an unlimited stay
Tourist : for an unlimited stay

Italy
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Jamaica
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Japan
Business: for stays up to 6 months
Tourist : for stays up to 6 months

Kiribati
Business: for stays up to 30 days
Tourist : for stays up to 30 days

Korea (South)Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Lesotho
Business: for stays up to 14 days
Tourist : for stays up to 14 days

Liechtenstein
Business: for an unlimited stay
Tourist : for an unlimited stay

Luxembourg
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

MalawiBusiness: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Malaysia
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Tourist : for stays up to 3 months

Mauritius
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Mexico
Business: for stays up to 180 days
Tourist : for stays up to 180 days

Micronesia (Federal State of)Business: for stays up to 30 days
Tourist : for stays up to 30 days

Montenegro (Republic of)Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Montserrat
Business: for stays up to 3 months
Tourist : for stays up to 3 months

Namibia
Business: for stays up to 3 months
Tourist : for stays up to 3 months

NetherlandsBusiness: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Neth. Antilles
Business: for stays up to 1 month, maximum stay of 90 days per year
Tourist : for stays up to 1 month, maximum stay of 90 days per year

New Zealand
Business: for stays up to 180 days
Tourist : for stays up to 180 days

Norway
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : : for stays up to 90 days

Paraguay
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Peru
Business: for stays up to 183 days
Tourist : for stays up to 183 days

Philippines
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Tourist : for stays up to 21 days

Poland
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

PortugalBusiness: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Samoa Island
Business: for stays up to 30 days
Tourist : for stays up to 30 days

San Marino
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Serbia (Republic of)
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Seychelles
Business: for an unlimited stay
Tourist : for an unlimited stay

Singapore
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Tourist : for an unlimited stay

South Africa
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Spain
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

St Kitts-Nevis AnguillaBusiness: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

St Lucia
Business: for stays up to 6 weeks
Tourist : for stays up to 6 weeks

St Vincent/the Grenadines
Business: for stays up to 30 days
Tourist : for stays up to 30 days

Swaziland
Business: for stays up to 60 days
Tourist : for stays up to 60 days

Sweden
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Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Switzerland
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Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Thailand
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Tourist : for stays up to 30 days

TongaBusiness: Visa Required
Tourist : for stays up to 3 months

Trinidad & Tobago
Business: for stays up to 3 months
Tourist : for stays up to 3 months

Tunisia
Business: for stays up to 3 months
Tourist : for stays up to 3 months

Turks & Caicos Islands
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Tourist : for stays up to 30 days

Ukraine
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Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Uruguay
Business: for stays up to 3 months
Tourist : for stays up to 3 months

Vanuatu
Business: for stays up to 30 days
Tourist : for stays up to 30 days

Vatican City
Business: for stays up to 90 days
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days

Venezuela
Business: Visa Required
Tourist : for stays up to 90 days
We haven't left yet though. My horizons were broadened at a young age. I'm a family man now.
 
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Depends where you buy and where you eat old kiddy
Locally I always have a fresh burger thingy never a faux filet
If I travel 10k then you get to eat the best
The very best nothing close in the U.K. to come close but it starts at €135 and you are there for 3 hours minimum
The Fleur is a standard place I walk to
See how that matches to a standard place in the U.K. different gear so my point is a beef based dish in France is religiously good

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Resta...es_Restaurant-Olargues_Herault_Occitanie.html
You do make me laugh DT. Remember I bought a house near Limoges and my neighbour is a cow farmer. he told me all the best meat goes to London restaurants. however enjoy your restaurant.
 
You do make me laugh DT. Remember I bought a house near Limoges and my neighbour is a cow farmer. he told me all the best meat goes to London restaurants. however enjoy your restaurant.

Well that’s all I can do as I am not a meat trader. You claimed French Beef is poor so I had to response

A Cow Farmer?

So he slaughters cows and sends them to the U.K.? I expect they are tender?

Does he deal with any Venison as they difficult animals to look after The free range Venison of the Limousin are renowned as are the wild Veal of the Massif Central

Did you catch any fish?
 
Sweet jesus if that's the best all this ****e is about then it seems even crazier by the minute. What a load of crap. Passport colour and fishing!!! Give me ****ing strenghth

Don't give a toss about the passport colour. But fishing? Is the taxpayer going to pay for several hundred armed patrol ships to ensure that nobody fishes in 'our waters? Are we ready to go to war so that self-proclaimed 'patriots' can feel proud about their country?
 
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Well that’s all I can do as I am not a meat trader. You claimed French Beef is poor so I had to response

A Cow Farmer?

So he slaughters cows and sends them to the U.K.? I expect they are tender?

Does he deal with any Venison as they difficult animals to look after The free range Venison of the Limousin are renowned as are the wild Veal of the Massif Central

Did you catch any fish?
No. I was well miffed. The French bloke didn't turn up so I ended up on my own. The only bites I got was from the mosquitos and the midges that bit my ankles the blood-sucking muppets.
No bloody fish in the sea! I can see why they fish our waters. A good reason to leave the EU.
 
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Don't give a toss about the passport colour. But fishing? Is the taxpayer going to pay for several hundred armed patrol ships to ensure that nobody fishes in 'our waters? Are we ready to go to war so that self-proclaimed 'patriots' can feel proud about their country?
Don’t be daft.

We don’t have enough boats to fish all our fish. We’ll just sell licences to the Dutch and Spanish. Nice little earner.
 
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Don't give a toss about the passport colour. But fishing? Is the taxpayer going to pay for several hundred armed patrol ships to ensure that nobody fishes in 'our waters? Are we ready to go to war so that self-proclaimed 'patriots' can feel proud about their country?
We have already sunk the French fleet once at Mers-el-Kebir! Just tell them to keep out of our waters and they will.
 
No. I was well miffed. The French bloke didn't turn up so I ended up on my own. The only bites I got was from the mosquitos and the midges that bit my ankles the blood-sucking muppets.
No bloody fish in the sea! I can see why they fish our waters. A good reason to leave the EU.

Oh the old midge trick
Did he ask you to look out for some sky hooks ?