Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Willhoops said:
Have they really? Or is it a few people on twatter and then people responding to score points?
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it definitely could be that its twatter but gender and race issues (not real ones imo) get plenty of time in our national media. I guess this gammon thing is also which is why we're debating it.

Anyway, people can feel free to call people gammon in my world. It's made up and pretty funny.
 
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i find myself not reading that much news nowadays unless its on the BBC and i tend to read some of the opinion pieces on the guardian just to see how much i disagree with them (quite a lot).

Anything thats big and interesting normally comes to this place in which i might then need to do some more research
 
what do people think of this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44121064

Reality is that more cloth is used but it is sort of discriminatory.

I don't know enough about clothing and how clothes are made (is it still hand done by kids in places like cambodia etc) or is it all machinery? if so are the machinery set sizes?

I sort of understand why they would price the clothes more but without knowing the operating costs and their margins, i'm leaning more towards you use more materials, so you have to pay more (but thats not because i'm skinny).

I guess you could come at it with the point of view that everyone should pay more so the price of "normal" sized clothes should cost more and the bigger clothes to cost slightly less creating an average.

Ultimately, if the bigger clothes are going to eat into the companys margins, then their might be less choice as those sizes are going to be not sold.
 
durbar2003 said:
I'd be really upset if someone called me a chink.
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fair enough, i wouldn't call you it if you were my mate and i knew it was out of bounds (and i would never call it to someone i didn't know).

i live by the rule that if you can't laugh at yourself you can't laugh at anyone.

I quite like stereotypical jokes but i do know they can cause offence.

is it bad that i jokea amongst my mates except it's now underground casual racism rather than out in the open. Probably. I guess i'm lucky that i'm a minority race.
 
I am coming round to the position that racism (and for that you can also substitute pretty much any other prejudice) is the biggest problem we face today. For the clearest example you only need to look stateside, but intolerance of differences is at the root of pretty much everything that is bad in the world. Whether you dislike someone because they are a different colour, a different nationality, a different religion, a different gender, follow a different political ethos, have a different sexuality, are older, younger, richer, poorer - the reason behind it really doesn't matter.

It's hugely ironic that most people are tolerant of intolerance, by which they don't speak against it, and as such perpetuate the trend of enabling the 'secret racists' (not for one second suggesting that's you, BobbyD) to feel more justified in their thoughts and behaviour, and to be more open.

Most people see racism as the easiest to define, simply because the difference is right there in front of your eyes. But that explains why so many don't feel able to be open about their sexuality, and why conversations about politics and religion get so easily inflamed, so very quickly.

I don't know what the solution is, even if there is one, on the large scale. All I think we can do is to to make a decision to stop any conscious or unconscious bias whenever we see it, and hope that enough people change their personal habits to make a big enough difference for society.
 
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durbar2003 said:
why look stateside, look at the uk where you have just had a vote to leave the EU mainly because of immigration.
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I actually think that proved my point. Some people aren't capable of acknowledging the issue, or would rather point at other people and say "well you're worse than me" than actually stop, think,. and say "yes, I am too tolerant of this prejudice around me"...
 
West London Willy said:
I am coming round to the position that racism (and for that you can also substitute pretty much any other prejudice) is the biggest problem we face today. For the clearest example you only need to look stateside, but intolerance of differences is at the root of pretty much everything that is bad in the world. Whether you dislike someone because they are a different colour, a different nationality, a different religion, a different gender, follow a different political ethos, have a different sexuality, are older, younger, richer, poorer - the reason behind it really doesn't matter.

It's hugely ironic that most people are tolerant of intolerance, by which they don't speak against it, and as such perpetuate the trend of enabling the 'secret racists' (not for one second suggesting that's you, BobbyD) to feel more justified in their thoughts and behaviour, and to be more open.

Most people see racism as the easiest to define, simply because the difference is right there in front of your eyes. But that explains why so many don't feel able to be open about their sexuality, and why conversations about politics and religion get so easily inflamed, so very quickly.

I don't know what the solution is, even if there is one, on the large scale. All I think we can do is to to make a decision to stop any conscious or unconscious bias whenever we see it, and hope that enough people change their personal habits to make a big enough difference for society.
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Agreed. People can do what they want and believe what they want as long as they are not hurting or harming others. Obviously there also needs to be common sense around it but people need to respect one another

An example is this stupid pegasa thing where they plan on having a hog roast in front of the mosque.

Eat what you want but that action is to deliberately inflame the Muslim community.

Likewise Muslims are happy to do what they want but don't expect there to be Sharia law (dunno if this happens).

People are all individuals and need to be treated as such. There are far more variables than just saying he's black white rich poor lives in the north or the south
 
BobbyD said:
Agreed. People can do what they want and believe what they want as long as they are not hurting or harming others. Obviously there also needs to be common sense around it but people need to respect one another

An example is this stupid pegasa thing where they plan on having a hog roast in front of the mosque.

Eat what you want but that action is to deliberately inflame the Muslim community.

Likewise Muslims are happy to do what they want but don't expect there to be Sharia law (dunno if this happens).

People are all individuals and need to be treated as such. There are far more variables than just saying he's black white rich poor lives in the north or the south
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What about if your a Chelsea supporter, can we abuse them?
 
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