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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    Switzerland is in the Single Market, which May has committed to leaving.
     
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  2. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    You're getting there, Ellers.
     
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    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    <yikes> I thought you would have liked that.
     
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  4. QPR999

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    Okay thanks mate. I don't understand much of the ins and outs of this stuff so I won't pursue it as all I'll have is more questions than answers.
     
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  5. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    Best way mate I first posted on this thread being a undecided and look what's happened to me? <yikes>
     
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  6. Lawrence Jacoby

    Lawrence Jacoby Well-Known Member

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    Yep you read the news
    Look at the amount of crap written by both sides and the vote hinged on some signage on the side of a bus
    This Facebook thing should spell out to everyone exactly how addicted we can become to grow knowledge that is in effect useless ... I doubt if any of us can even remember any of the stuff we read and then comment on
     
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  7. Rather bizarrely that's one where it's almost 50/50 in the they need us more than we need them stakes...
     
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  8. Steelmonkey

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    Scottish fishing is where the real.problem lies.....some of the regions of Scotland that voted Brexit are very fisherman reliant, and now have Tory MPs, and a lot of pressure will be put on big bad Ruth to support their rights, which opposes the proposals made today for the "transition period". Whilst sounding insignificant, the Scottish Tories may well hold the balance of power as their 13 MPs actually hold more power than the DUP hangers on, and are threatening Chairman May to hold up her end of the Brexit Bargain........

    Scottish Tories warn May they are prepared to collapse Government over UK fishing rights | HeraldScotland http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...o_collapse_Government_over_UK_fishing_rights/
     
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    Having never been a Facebook follower, is it now time for you all to jump ship.....

    #DeleteFacebook trends in response to Cambridge Analytica - BBC News http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-43470837
     
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  10. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Who is causing the so called Irish problem
    The UK
    The Irish
    Or the Eu
    If it's a problem for the Eu then a simple law change that affects only two countries could easily be voted on l
     
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  11. ELLERS

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    Do you know what is so stupid about this response?
    I am accused of reading the news and then you quote 2 news items. :1980_boogie_down:
    I hate people that think they are somehow elevated from the rest of us. Stop talking rubbish DT
     
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    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    The EU and the elite and 'Remoaners' are using this to try and derail Brexit. The more I follow the news and read up on Brexit the more It becomes so evident. The EU is a club you join (like the mafia) where you stay a member until you die. So many unnecessary problems caused by people who won't let us leave.
     
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  13. Lawrence Jacoby

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    I am elevated without doubt
    The news cannot be escaped from here in the UK ... France it goes on once a day if that . It’s what’s you do with it that is the problem clearly you haven’t got
    Copy and paste your selection of news is exactly what?
    The reason I intentionally come across a stupid **** on this forum is because I am aware of how silly all this stuff is

    This forum All forums serve people who are infected and do not know it. I am worse I know I am infected and still like it

    We are all writing a very messy book or rolling essay nothing more

    The influence of the technology revolution will leave it mark on culture
     
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  14. ELLERS

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    So as I have said we all look at news or read information. We then make our own judgment on it. Your cultural milieu, education and political preferences will all affect your decision making. I like to think that I look at all angles however I am very skeptical at times due to the influences of the person writing it.
    As I have said on many occasions I was a 'remainer' to begin with but then once I looked into things I changed my mind. I was then a soft 'Brexiter', then a hard 'Brexiter'. And now more chilled out about the recent deal (bar the fisheries). I have stuck up for May and the Tories and moaned about them. I have said good things about Jeremy Corbyn and then mocked him. I am not stuck on the same track like some people seem to be, I will assess what is in front of me political preferences or not and come to a conclusion.
     
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    Again I apologise to the forum for being arrogant but for me the soul is refreshed a little after a good rant . I see that as a small token to fight back against the influence of this technology boom which may I add has been lapped up by U.K. culture

    Accepting this is my way of justifying a sense of some control

    Well my world changes again as back home today to the Republic. All my fears are contained re in Brexit that this may change
    There will be a way
     
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    Ellers, what's wrong with the fisheries deal, isn't just a delay of 21 months?
     
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    I thought that as well but reading into it, in that 21 months we don't get a say and the EU does, so who is to say they won't take the P and secondly it may cost many fishing businesses. If the government goes ahead with this, they may need to help out some small fishing business for a bit.
     
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    But why will it be any different in those 21 months than its been for the last 40 odd years ?
     
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    As I said the EU may change the rules and if am correct we don't get a say. More importantly, 21months in a small business is a long time. These fisherman have been struggling in recent years. They voted to leave which was 2 years ago and now they are saying another 21months. (They may even try to extend that). I think you are being a little unkind to these workers.
     
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    Unkind?
     
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