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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 12 Mar)

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Mar 12, 2018.

  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member
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  2. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    Anyone else concerned we have no way to cover Saiz when he’s out? Maybe Jamie Carragher would be the natural backstop?
     
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    We haven't had £15million for wood yet only made 1 payment of 3,so I understand.
     
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    Are you saying that when it comes to selling players we accept staggered payment, but when we buy we put the money upfront.
    Don't sound good business to me.
     
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  5. 2020VisionofLeeds

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    You can’t do the figures like that Chesh, best way is to do it on full committed value when the player moves. I know the cash is different but there’s no way to track it all - we may get payments for players sold in the past too, you just can’t track it and it just confuses the issue.

    In any case, whether we got 100% of Woods money on day one, or 20% or 50%, we lost 100% of him as a player on day 1 so that’s the best way to look at it from a footballing point of view
     
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  6. lifecheshirewhite

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    Cheaper players tend to be straight payments,larger fee's tend to be staggered,make of that,what you want.<whistle> I'm sure glory will.
     
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    I think it means we should have voted Remain
     
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    You've just said it "Cheap players" should have said "Less expensive players"
    Just me playing silly bug--rs
     
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  9. lifecheshirewhite

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    But it could mean rad has spent £10 million more than you are saying.big difference on cashflow.
     
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    My problem is Radz coming out and taking the blame for Thomas, saying he shouldn't have chosen him and should have sacked him at Xmas. Then bringing in someone none of us would have looked at. PH will be here until the Summer thats now obvious, but what happens if performances and results dont improve? If 2 managers cant get the best out of your players does that mean the players are shyte or the managers are both as bad as each other. Either way the Orta situation comes into the spotlight as its either sack another manager or Orta.

    When a new manager comes into a side that has had sucess in performing well, you expect them to have a big improvement immediatley unless the new manager is in the same league as Pardew or Coleman. Sorry but we seem to have a Pardew right now and wondering if Tommy would have been better

    PH has been here a while now and I ant see an imprivement, I only see worse performances from LDB, Felix, Phillips, Anita, O’Kane. I see Sacko playing and I dont ghink any of these players performed that bad for Tommy and even Tommy knew not to play Sacko
     
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    Maybe could be we don’t know, we also don’t know what might come in from previous sales like Byram, we don’t know if we paid £4.6m upfront orbin stages for Forshaw (say)

    We are not running the club Rad is and yes he has to manage cash flow, but any business has mechanisms to manage cash

    Businesses also monitor their committed spends, and that’s what I’m looking at. It is also what matters from a playing point of view - when Woods left we lost 100% of a £15m player, when we bought Forshaw we got 100% of a £5m player.that is the most meaningful way to look at whether Rad is strengthening the squad or not
     
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    I’ve told you time and agin why were crap. Not bothering anymore as you have your head buried in sand #ostrich
     
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    <laugh>
     
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    That's far too simple for some to understand.
    <laugh>
     
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    good luck 60 all the best look forward to your posts
     
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    Fortunately Chesh is a giant of an intellect
    :emoticon-0127-lipss
     
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    :emoticon-0132-envy::emoticon-0132-envy::emoticon-0132-envy::emoticon-0132-envy::emoticon-0132-envy::emoticon-0132-envy::emoticon-0132-envy::emoticon-0132-envy:
     
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    That you Shrek
     
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    Well that's good leave the supporting to the fans,you stick with Leicester.
     
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    might be Shrek <ok>
    but I bet you shriek every time you look up way up a long way up and see us <laugh>
     
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