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One of the great mysteries in football is how West Ham decided that Moyes was the best manager they could appoint.

For me, Moyes is yesterday's man. West Ham is in trouble. They could have either appointed a manager who could save them from relegation or someone who could rebuild and give them a good team in the lomng term. Moyes is simply neither. He was appalling at Sunderland and they dropped into the championship like a stone, witjout even a hint of a fight. And in terms of rebuilding, he was just poor at the mancs and at Real Sociedad.

West ham are simply doomed to the championship. Of all the managers they could have picked, why did they go for a man with a history of failure?
 
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And Football Manager [HASHTAG]#predicted[/HASHTAG] Klopp would go too
 
johnsonsbaby said:
I can talk about walking away now because he's already done it twice :p

I know you didn't invent it, clubs have done it and will continue to do it but don't you think there's something not very classy about approaching a manager who not only already has a job, it's mid-season and he's only been there for a handful of games? That's not very 'Everton' or it didn't used to be. It's bad all round and starting a culture that I don't want creeping in.
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you should amend that to:

not very classy approaching a club on the day they have a game.......
 
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carlthejackal said:
It should also be what was agreed at the time of the appointment. If for example when Silva was appointed the watford board told him that he would appointed on a long term basis, he would be given time to build his own team and squad, that he would be given that budget etc, then I can see that he has fewer reasons for walking away and the board should have fewer excuses to sack him if he goes on a bad run.

But we all know that the clubs owners are now so fearful of relegation that they will pull the trigger sooner rahther than later. Especially when hundreds of millions are at stake.

Wouldn't be ironic if Silva turned down the Everton offer and then have a run of four consecutive defeats in the New year and gets sacked? Make no mistake all the "loyalty" and the previous offers would be forgotten in an instant as fear grips the owners. If Ranieri can be dismissed after pulling off a miracle and giving Leicester the greatest prize in their history, then no one is unsackable.
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I agree with all of that. My main point has been that I personally wouldn't want a manager with this kind of lack of integrity at my club. Whatever Watford have done or haven't done in terms of sacking managers, their fans deserve better and it's the fans who I'm thinking of first.
 
carlthejackal said:
One of the great mysteries in football is how West Ham decided that Moyes was the best manager they could appoint.

For me, Moyes is yesterday's man. West Ham is in trouble. They could have either appointed a manager who could save them from relegation or someone who could rebuild and give them a good team in the lomng term. Moyes is simply neither. He was appalling at Sunderland and they dropped into the championship like a stone, witjout even a hint of a fight. And in terms of rebuilding, he was just poor at the mancs and at Real Sociedad.

West ham are simply doomed to the championship. Of all the managers they could have picked, why did they go for a man with a history of failure?
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whats going on there is a complete mystery to me.

I thought honestly the spivs were only interested in getting their grubby paws on that stadium then selling up. Their game plan seems odd too me. Surely theres massive profits in selling up west ham to some one given its london, 60k stadium and in prem... surely the upton park properties cannot be worth so much they need to hang onto the club until they get them built?

appointing moyes was a real just make do move.
 
johnsonsbaby said:
I agree with all of that. My main point has been that I personally wouldn't want a manager with this kind of lack of integrity at my club. Whatever Watford have done or haven't done in terms of sacking managers, their fans deserve better and it's the fans who I'm thinking of first.
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Unfortunately the fans are the last people to be considered when these decisions are made.
 
johnsonsbaby said:
I can talk about walking away now because he's already done it twice :p

I know you didn't invent it, clubs have done it and will continue to do it but don't you think there's something not very classy about approaching a manager who not only already has a job, it's mid-season and he's only been there for a handful of games? That's not very 'Everton' or it didn't used to be. It's bad all round and starting a culture that I don't want creeping in.
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Said that I didn’t want Silva, he is just another Martinez.

We went for Koeman end of season, just appoint an interim bloke and then sort in summer.

Moyes move to WHU has secured our PL status.
 
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And Football Manager [HASHTAG]#predicted[/HASHTAG] Klopp would go too
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Still plenty of time for that to happen with BBC United backed campaign
 
PJS - BACK AND BOSSING IT said:
Said that I didn’t want Silva, he is just another Martinez.

We went for Koeman end of season, just appoint an interim bloke and then sort in summer.

Moyes move to WHU has secured our PL status.
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maybe.... but not quite. I agree swansea and palace look right in it to their necks but anyone of 9 clubs could join them. In fact swansea's record of surviving is such that they could surprise us all.

I bet west ham are raging they pulled the trigger on bilic now cos frankly if they waited and pulis was available then he was a shoe in.

For me.... they are all panicking and chasing managers in case someone else gets one that keeps them up and not them.
 
carlthejackal said:
One of the great mysteries in football is how West Ham decided that Moyes was the best manager they could appoint.

For me, Moyes is yesterday's man. West Ham is in trouble. They could have either appointed a manager who could save them from relegation or someone who could rebuild and give them a good team in the lomng term. Moyes is simply neither. He was appalling at Sunderland and they dropped into the championship like a stone, witjout even a hint of a fight. And in terms of rebuilding, he was just poor at the mancs and at Real Sociedad.

West ham are simply doomed to the championship. Of all the managers they could have picked, why did they go for a man with a history of failure?
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I think the only thing that may save Moyes from further embarrassment is the fact they've teamed him up with Stuart Pearce, surely between them they have the savvy to keep West Ham in the PL? One without the other I'm not so sure, but both together should pull things round. Should being the key word!
 
PJS - BACK AND BOSSING IT said:
Said that I didn’t want Silva, he is just another Martinez.

We went for Koeman end of season, just appoint an interim bloke and then sort in summer.

Moyes move to WHU has secured our PL status.
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I honestly don't know much about Silva only what I read because I haven't seen any of his sides play so can't comment first hand on it. From what I have read, he is a good coach and was very impressive in Portugal. I don't think he's a 'keeper' though as he will be off first chance he gets. I think you need a Dyche or Howe, someone who is signed with an eye to being there long term, to build on and with. Problem as I see it is you're a club in crisis and when that happens the first thought is short term.
 
Skylarker said:
I think the only thing that may save Moyes from further embarrassment is the fact they've teamed him up with Stuart Pearce, surely between them they have the savvy to keep West Ham in the PL? One without the other I'm not so sure, but both together should pull things round. Should being the key word!
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I think if they just go route one etc they have enough in carroll and lanzini and arunitovic to score goals and have enough at the back to defend.

I think they need to pulis up the place though.
 
johnsonsbaby said:
I honestly don't know much about Silva only what I read because I haven't seen any of his sides play so can't comment first hand on it. From what I have read, he is a good coach and was very impressive in Portugal. I don't think he's a 'keeper' though as he will be off first chance he gets. I think you need a Dyche or Howe, someone who is signed with an eye to being there long term, to build on and with. Problem as I see it is you're a club in crisis and when that happens the first thought is short term.
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No crisis, more than enough to stay up, even with teams strengthening in management department.

If it’s short term then get big Sam in.
 
johnsonsbaby said:
Oh you're in crisis mate. Hovering one game away from relegation, and the longer that goes on, speaks for itself.
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We're bloody awful and even though we've taken 4 out of the last 6, it could have just as easily have been 0.

We need to stop conceding soft goals and get the team well drilled positionally, as we're a mess
 
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Tobes said:
We're bloody awful and even though we've taken 4 out of the last 6, it could have just as easily have been 0.

We need to stop conceding soft goals and get the team well drilled positionally, as we're a mess
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You need a striker. Then at least you can go for the we'll score one more than you approach. I feel for the fans atm. Maybe now would be a good time to release the new stadium plans.
 
johnsonsbaby said:
You need a striker. Then at least you can go for the we'll score one more than you approach. I feel for the fans atm. Maybe now would be a good time to release the new stadium plans.
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A striker won't solve the problems with that side by himself mate.
 
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