Who's the oldest PL board poster?

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It’s more the system, mate. There are many who wouldn’t and shouldn’t have been allowed near a university years ago.

I remember when they first abolished the old apprenticeships - crazy decision. Kids who weren’t academically minded could learn on the job, with one day a week at college. After 5 yrs ( plus getting covered in a barrel of ****e) you were a fully qualified and well trained Sparks, plumber, carpenter, etc.

I completely agree but the system is not the students concern, as a life choice for a kid if you have the brains go to uni and get an education in the majority it'll set you up for a life with a decent job.
 
Oh I agree that the loan terms are better than anything the bank would lend. My point is that the cost of education is exorbitant.

I don’t know how kids are expected to buy a house and raise a family when they have £60k worth of debt around their necks before they’ve even had their first proper job.

It's possible myself and Mrs luv managed and you have to take into account that the reason we managed was because she had a good job because of her education.
 
It’s more the system, mate. There are many who wouldn’t and shouldn’t have been allowed near a university years ago.

I remember when they first abolished the old apprenticeships - crazy decision. Kids who weren’t academically minded could learn on the job, with one day a week at college. After 5 yrs ( plus getting covered in a barrel of ****e) you were a fully qualified and well trained Sparks, plumber, carpenter, etc.
Yes, but then you might join a union or something. Can't be having that. Could lead to anything.
 
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It's possible myself and Mrs luv managed and you have to take into account that the reason we managed was because she had a good job because of her education.

I would count you as the lucky ones. The expansion of university places over the last 25 years now means that there simply aren’t the amount of graduate jobs to go around.
 
Yes, but then you might join a union or something. Can't be having that. Could lead to anything.

Never had a problem with the unions, mate, they are very necessary. Just some of the politically motivated people who were supposed to be running the unions for the benefit of their members, not to advance and impose their own political doctrine.
 
I’ve just turned 44, but I’m in better shape now than when I was 34.
 
Never had a problem with the unions, mate, they are very necessary. Just some of the politically motivated people who were supposed to be running the unions for the benefit of their members, not to advance and impose their own political doctrine.
I think that's a problem with any position of power, though.