They would never go for a 30,000 seater stadium right behind Hammersmith hospital. Sad, but true.
Stadium plans - The Inde on Sunday
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They would never go for a 30,000 seater stadium right behind Hammersmith hospital. Sad, but true.
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This is the White City Opportunity Area (WCOA). As you can see it's a massive area that they're talking about redeveloping, including much of the White City Estate. Given it's such a large area, and that they are likely to have to knock down much of what is already there, there is easily enough room for a new stadium within it. There are not yet any firm proposals about exactly what to do with the area, and nothing's got to the consultation stages yet. The draft framework document was written a while ago and says the although there are as yet no plans for a new stadium "QPRâs aspirations for premiership status may require a much larger ground which meets modern standards".
It's a no brainer for me that, if they haven't already, then QPR should take the opportunity to propose some plans to the council.
30,000 with room to increase if we need to. Hopefully it would have some atmosphere, that's the possible negative of new stadiums, they are often soulless...
Do you think that would entice some of the fans that felt outcasted by the "Goons"? I personally feel a 25,000 seater would be okay for you guys, it would be 7k more than you have and more than adequate.
I see your point about modern stadiums though
I think it's only a matter of time before they introduce a minimum capacity for the PL. That aside, Fulham were getting 4-5,000 when they were in the bottom division in the early 90s. They average about 23,000 at present. PL football attracts a lot of floating punters in London and we have a bigger fanbase than is reflected in our average gates at present. With success I'd expect us to average 25,000+ and build from there.
The old unigate site isn't it ? I think this was discussed a few years ago, can't remember the outcome though
I agree, I would say up until recently QPR's fanbase was by far larger than Fulham's. In fact, up until the late 90s, I only knew one Fulham fan, now I know tons. That is not to say they weren't Fulham fans before but as you say in London there are a lot of floating fans.
QPR could fill a 20-25,000 seater with ease, but a 30,000+ could be risky. Best option may be to build a 25,000 seater with room for expansion.
It would be fantastic for the H&F borough if QPR could get to where Fulham are and have a 25,000 seater and be a fully established PL team. At Chelsea we've encountered the same difficulties you are having with regards to relocation
Much of the "massive area" has already been developed/is currently being developed/has plans already passed for development. There isn't that much left.
Guys and Gals. Have a look at the good earth image. Link attached but often does not work, just find it on Google Earth.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?clien...-8&redir_esc=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wl
The site we are discussing is HUGE when compared to the LR site. I do believe Chelsea have looked at it too. It is an obvious and ideal solution. In these troubled times who else is going to have the cash to do anything useful with such a site?
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http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?clien...-8&redir_esc=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wl
The site we are discussing is HUGE when compared to the LR site. I do believe Chelsea have looked at it too. It is an obvious and ideal solution. In these troubled times who else is going to have the cash to do anything useful with such a site?
You Rsssssssss!!!
I agree, I would say up until recently QPR's fanbase was by far larger than Fulham's. In fact, up until the late 90s, I only knew one Fulham fan, now I know tons. That is not to say they weren't Fulham fans before but as you say in London there are a lot of floating fans.
QPR could fill a 20-25,000 seater with ease, but a 30,000+ could be risky. Best option may be to build a 25,000 seater with room for expansion.
It would be fantastic for the H&F borough if QPR could get to where Fulham are and have a 25,000 seater and be a fully established PL team. At Chelsea we've encountered the same difficulties you are having with regards to relocation
District, are you boys at maximum capacity now, or can you build further up? I've been to the Bridge once, sot in the nosebleed section to watch my stepdad's Newcastle get squashed. Kinda needed binoculars even as it was!
I think we are at maximum now, it would be difficult to see us building further upwards, my first ever game at the Bridge was a win vs Newcastle too. Coincidence
what about the 02 arena?or kings cross area plenty of land around these 2 sites -chelsea where seriously looking at kings cross last year
QPR biggest average crowed dates back to 2004/05 with an attendance around 16000, so who really thinks there will another 10000+ (average) in the near future ? I can only see a significant increase if TF brings in the big players or we go for Champions. Investing into LR would make much more sense then thinking about new stadiums.
1. Logic tells you that the average would have been higher than 16000 if we had owned a bigger ground (big attendances on important matches)
2. While we are in the Premiership, you can't compare with 2004/5
A client of mine recently said that we have surveyed the BBC site (who are moving out) with the view to a 35,000 stadium?
Horsham, if that is true, it might explain why Bernie valued QPR at £100m, a bit like a house / plot of land with planning permission for bigger and better and more financially productive things. Can't see how you get around the listed building thing though.
1. Logic tells we never touched the maximum
2. The time before 97 the average was 14000 so why should we now get 25000+ - just wishful thinking
The Premier League is a different league to the one we were in in 96. Look at the world-class players in so many teams and that is why crowds are higher than ever. We were getting 24,000 plus in the 70s and I've been in the ground with 35,000 when it was terracing, so there is a fan base that is there to be attracted plus new fans who'll come along for the ride. 30,000 is the minimum capacity we should be planning for in future. Loftus Road will become an albatross round our necks if we are an established PL club there really is no alternative if we aim to stay in the big league.