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  1. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Fossil record or dinosaur becoming a chicken please

    Any other conversation doesn't require your nonsense
     
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  2. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    You believe in something that you can't prove.
    That's not what evolution is, though. Why do you think it is?

    No, the chicken didn't grow a dinosaur leg by itself. Nobody said that it did.
    How does scientists doing that provide any evidence at all for a creator?
     
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    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Sticking your fingers in your ears and singing isn't an argument, I'm afraid.

    Existence is proof of existence. It's not proof of something that's outside of it.
    That doesn't make any sense.
     
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    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    That is not proof.

    A type of ape is exactly that. Before man evolved, there were ape type creatures, that over millions of years, became man. Do you agree or disagree with that, and why?
     
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    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    I appreciate evolution is a process taking time but the dinochicken example as some sort of evidence considering it was a lab experiment is laughable no?
     
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  6. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    Do you think we came from apes?
     
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  7. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Fossil record? Can you or not?
     
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    You need to explain this further.

    Do you mean one species to another or more like cheetah became tarzan
     
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    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    We've been over this already. Stamping your feet, clenching your fists and having a tantrum doesn't change that.
    If you don't want to discuss the subject, then just say so.
    Admitting that you're too stuck in your beliefs to address them is fine.
     
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    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Excuse me?

    Aren't you the one struggling to provide a complete fossil record or proof of dinosaurs becoming chickens?

    The only evidence you have put forward is a link of scientists growing dinosaur leg on a chicken

    Are the scientists not the creators here?
     
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    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    Cheetah to Tarzan would be one species to another. I'm asking about the evolution of one species of ape like creature into us.
     
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    I will take that as a no then?

    Can't provide evidence for your claims?
     
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  13. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    Would that make them god, or at least show it doesn't need supernatural powers?
     
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    In a word no

    But happy for you to provide the evidence that this happened
     
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    So you believe we came from clay?
     
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    When did I say that I was going to provide the complete fossil record or show that a dinosaur turned into a chicken?
    I've already explained why those are both demonstrations of your ignorance of evolution.
    Just shouting, "DINOCHICKEN! ALL THE FOSSILS!", over and over again is not a discussion.
    You're refusing to address anything that's being said.

    No, the scientists aren't creators there. They're alterers. They haven't created anything.
    Even if there were, that would be evidence of material, mortal creators and not a supernatural, non-physical one.
     
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    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    That's not a no, no. That's me pointing out the issues with your understanding.

    What claims have I made that I haven't provided evidence for?
     
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    It makes them creators no?

    Depends how you view supernatural. If a scientist can take something and do that to it when others can't it is kind of "magical" no?

    Now let's see them do that from nothing
     
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    Given current knowledge, and billions of years, they can. They'd have to exist themselves to do it though, but science has got pretty close to knowing how it can happen naturally. It doesn't involve clay until quite a way in to the process.
     
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    How is it ignorance? If the fossil record is incomplete then how can sine claims by evolutionist be true?

    How can god be dismissed as we can't see him yet we accept evolution when no one had seen it happen or have a complete record of it happening?

    YOU bought up dinochicken as proof <laugh>

    So an artist who creates a masterpiece or a carpenter cresting a table are alterers?

    So god is non physical and is supernatural? And you dare say I am ignorant?
     
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