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So it doesn't really matter who Mayweather fights to make it to 50, as he's proven himself more times at the highest level in those 50 fights than Marciano did. I think people need to look at the bigger picture rather than just the 50th fight.
Mayweather has no MMA training whatsoever. He would not have a hope in hell even against a rookie MMA fighter. You can't run and counter punch someone who is trying to take you down
McGregor would pick Mayweather apart however he liked to in an MMA fight. It would be like watching a cat playing with a mouse.
Boxing is just a limited version of MMA. MMA fighters know how to punch, and know how to deal with someone punching them. A boxer would have no clue on how to deal with a take down or a kick or a knee to the head.
I think your seriously overestimating McGregor's boxing ability. I'm not saying Mayweather wins the MMA fight but Mayweather throwing punches with MMA gloves is going to cause a lot of damage.
The chances of McGregor ko Mayweather is virtually nil. I don't believe he can land that clean shot and even if he does I believe it won't be a fight ender anyway.
However the chances of Mayweather landing clean on McGregor in a MMA fight would be high. If that happens McGregor would be in serious trouble. No MMA fighter throws punches anywhere near in the same league as Mayweather.
Obviously take him to the floor and the MMA fighter wins. While it's a stand up fight Mayweather would have a chance of getting the job done.
The boxing match. The current Irish boxing champion would have more chance of victory than McGregor.
By the way. I hate what Mayweather is doing here and Id love to see McGregor win. It won't happen though.
Well pretty much all of McGregors KOs in the UFC have come from punches when he's stood up in a boxing position. Yet the guy apparently can't box? The only time McGregor ever lost in the UFC was when he was taken to the floor and chocked out. So he's a stand up fighter.
Mayweather doesn't hit that hard at all, he's pretty much a counter puncher who point scores his way to victory in most of his fights. Yeah he'd do more damage with UFC gloves, but he still doesn't have the punching power to stop a fight early.
He certainly doesn't hit anywhere near as hard as McGregor or lots of other UFC fighters. McGregor hits as hard as any boxer his size.
To basically suggest no other fighters in combat sports punch as hard as Mayweather because he's a boxer is such a narrow minded view, and completely untrue.
To even try to suggest that Mayweather would stand a chance in a stand up fight against McGregor under UFC rules is one of the funniest comments I've read on here. You clearly have no idea the skills a fighter requires to fight under those rules. If you just know how to box your gonna last about 10 seconds, even in a stand up fight.
In all honesty probably Mayweather on points. I just don't see it being this stroll in the park that people are suggesting.
McGregor is very big, and incredibly strong, definitely the strongest opponent Mayweather will have ever encountered. He will definitely cause him problems.
It may well be an exhibition, but it's definitely not a joke.
Be serious now he's taking on one of the best pound for pound fighters, and certainly the most famous fighter in the world. He's the only 2 weight world champion in UFC history.
Yeah it's under boxing rules, but is boxing not a form of martial arts? Not to mention McGregor's method of victory in most of his fights has been from punches stood in a boxing position.
McGregor has got a boxing license and is a proven elite fighter, so yeah the fight definitely should count towards the record. There are plenty of worse boxers Mayweather will have faced in those other 49 fights.
Don't know how true it is, but Deontay Wilder has come on strong over what looks to be a piss poor amount of money to fight Anthony Joshua. According to an Instagram rant from Wilder, "Fast" Eddie Hearn has offered just three million to fight A. J., and he's not happy about it. And if the verbal spew has some truth to it, Hearn also wants Wilder to dance to his tune. It seems a lot is going on behind closed doors. The outpouring is below.
@eddiehearn bro let's not play around here, We both know who I want from England, you told me a while back at the WBC convention that your main man was next remember? So why have you been trying to throw your cocka roaches in with me. First it was Bellew and now it's your dirty **** @dillianwhyte man come on. I tell you what... Make that offer of 3 million into 7 million and on OUR terms. Oh it's going to cost you to change my plans of what we about to do up and NO it's not on YOUR terms. How you go come with a offer of 3 million and want things on your terms too? The last time I checked I was the damn CHAMP! When I bet the horse **** out your stray doggy, (Animal Farm) I'm AGAIN not going to GAIN any credit or anything from anybody for beating his ass whatsoever; After this beat down from TTown, They will call him a Bum too let's face it and the world knows this. Fans really just want to see me back in the ring that's why they entertaining this bullshit. @dillianwhyte is a crush dummy at best, he's designed to well you know!?! "****ing Crush" Every fighter wants to fight for titles over and over again, **** some guys never see a first time and y'all want another shot with 3M + term too? Get the **** out of here. Hey I would love to **** him up as bad and as bloody as I will do and take that money too EZ. So sleep on them nuts and come back with an open mind and a new heart because the CHAMP don't like this ****ery. "I SWEAR TO GOD IM GOING TO CATCH A BODY FROM ONE OF THIS CABBAGES IN THIS SPORT SOON, MARK MY WORDS"... [HASHTAG]#BombZquad[/HASHTAG][HASHTAG]#DeathRow[/HASHTAG][HASHTAG]#FixTheLeakage[/HASHTAG][HASHTAG]#IfYourRidingWithMeThenLetsRide[/HASHTAG][HASHTAG]#IfNotThenKickRocks[/HASHTAG][HASHTAG]#PutSomeRespectOnMyName[/HASHTAG][HASHTAG]#UsaVsEverybody[/HASHTAG][HASHTAG]#TheRealistChampInTheBusiness[/HASHTAG]
@eddiehearn bro let's not play around here, We both know who I want from England, you told me a while back at the WBC convention that your main man was next remember? So why have you been trying to throw your cocka roaches in with me. First it was Bellew and now it's your dirty **** @dillianwhyte man come on. I tell you what... Make that offer of 3 million into 7 million and on OUR terms. Oh it's going to cost you to change my plans of what we about to do up and NO it's not on YOUR terms. How you go come with a offer of 3 million and want things on your terms too? The last time I checked I was the damn CHAMP! When I bet the horse **** out your stray doggy, (Animal Farm) I'm AGAIN not going to GAIN any credit or anything from anybody for beating his ass whatsoever; After this beat down from TTown, They will call him a Bum too let's face it and the world knows this. Fans really just want to see me back in the ring that's why they entertaining this bullshit. @dillianwhyte is a crush dummy at best, he's designed to well you know!?! "****ing Crush" Every fighter wants to fight for titles over and over again, **** some guys never see a first time and y'all want another shot with 3M + term too? Get the **** out of here. Hey I would love to **** him up as bad and as bloody as I will do and take that money too EZ. So sleep on them nuts and come back with an open mind and a new heart because the CHAMP don't like this ****ery. "I SWEAR TO GOD IM GOING TO CATCH A BODY FROM ONE OF THIS CABBAGES IN THIS SPORT SOON, MARK MY WORDS"... [HASHTAG]#BombZquad[/HASHTAG][HASHTAG]#DeathRow[/HASHTAG][HASHTAG]#FixTheLeakage[/HASHTAG][HASHTAG]#IfYourRidingWithMeThenLetsRide[/HASHTAG][HASHTAG]#IfNotThenKickRocks[/HASHTAG][HASHTAG]#PutSomeRespectOnMyName[/HASHTAG][HASHTAG]#UsaVsEverybody[/HASHTAG][HASHTAG]#TheRealistChampInTheBusiness[/HASHTAG]
It's hard to believe the Rumble In The Jungle happened more than 40 years ago. 60 seconds into the bout and the crowd erupts on you know who's side. A true clash of the titans. Every time I see this fight, I'm amazed at just how good Ali was. I've never seen a heavyweight like him.
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I fear we may be about to enter a ducking and diving/musical chairs era of the heavyweight division Cyc. It's not the fighters ducking each other it's the promoters trying to protect there fighters air of invincibility and get a sequence of mega fights for their man. Theres about 3/4 top fighters who all have legit claims to being the best.
Therefore is this not the perfect time to replicate the Super 6 thing we had in the middleweight division around 2009/10 with Froch, Abraham, Ward, Kessler et al what a brilliant idea it was and it worked out really well from memory. A series of super bouts with plenty on the line each time. Get these promoters into a room and get the same organised for the heavys! This looks the perfect time for such, means we'll all get the big match ups, and no one would gripe buying 3/4/5 PPVS if we had AJ/Wilder/Fury etc all fighting on these bills. And of course we'd find out who really is the top dog in the division.
Eddie my man, are you reading this
Therefore is this not the perfect time to replicate the Super 6 thing we had in the middleweight division around 2009/10 with Froch, Abraham, Ward, Kessler et al what a brilliant idea it was and it worked out really well from memory. A series of super bouts with plenty on the line each time. Get these promoters into a room and get the same organised for the heavys! This looks the perfect time for such, means we'll all get the big match ups, and no one would gripe buying 3/4/5 PPVS if we had AJ/Wilder/Fury etc all fighting on these bills. And of course we'd find out who really is the top dog in the division.
Eddie my man, are you reading this
****, now I know why Vasyl lomachenko is so good at placing his shots? 
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The first time I saw this type of training it was a girl boxer. I thought then, how does she do that?****, now I know why Vasyl lomachenko is so good at placing his shots?
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****, now I know why Vasyl lomachenko is so good at placing his shots?
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That's fecking awesome. This guy is so near the top of my own personal pfp boxers on the planet. Who we all got as that? I'd have to put Ward, Loma, Terence Crawford, as probably my top three. GGG is a beast but I really don't think he's that much better than Canelo, if at all, and for that reason I'm not sure he'll make my top three. I bet he's absolutely fecking gutted when he reads this...
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Loma, Crawford, Ward, Gonzalez, Canelo(just over Mikey Garcia) probably my top 5 but in no particular order. I'd have Canelo in over GGG because I think he's fought better opposition although at the moment I'm leaning towards GGG to win their fight.
This p4p stuff is a bit on the hard side. I don't think Mayweather can be counted at the moment, not even after the massacre he's about to hand McGregor, so I'll leave him out. And as good as Joshua looks, he hasn't been around long enough or done enough to justify the position.
It's hard to go past Andre Ward. After beating Kessler, Abraham, Froch and Kolalev twice, he looks the goods. If he steps to cruiserweight it's hard to see anyone with the possible exception of Usyk, even making much of a fight of it.
Forget the super middle guys.
Only two in the middle. Golovkin and Canelo. I like Golovkin, but who ever wins this bout has to be rated above the other. Canelo is alone at super welter.
For me, it's only Thurman and Spence at welter. I think these two and Crawford at Jr welter are alone down there.
The only others I can see who have a shout for me would be Lomachenko at super feather, Rigondeaux at super bantam and Gonzalez at Super fly.
I'd probably take Crawford over Thurman and Spence. I really like Gonzalez, but the stepping to the higher weights looks to be hurting the little bloke. Just his record alone must give Gonzalez the edge over Crawford for mine. But that will probably change in the next two years. The big question is, where do these two little guys stand against Golovkin and Canelo Alvarez? I think the games Canelo has played leaves him short of GGG, he needs to step up. This super fight between the will sort it all out, but until then ... GGG. So for me.
1. Ward.
2. Golovkin.
3. Gonzalez.
4. Crawford.
5. Rigondeaux.
6. Alvarez.
7. Lomachenko. (with a bullet). Maybe he should be 3. I told ya' it was hard .
It's hard to go past Andre Ward. After beating Kessler, Abraham, Froch and Kolalev twice, he looks the goods. If he steps to cruiserweight it's hard to see anyone with the possible exception of Usyk, even making much of a fight of it.
Forget the super middle guys.
Only two in the middle. Golovkin and Canelo. I like Golovkin, but who ever wins this bout has to be rated above the other. Canelo is alone at super welter.
For me, it's only Thurman and Spence at welter. I think these two and Crawford at Jr welter are alone down there.
The only others I can see who have a shout for me would be Lomachenko at super feather, Rigondeaux at super bantam and Gonzalez at Super fly.
I'd probably take Crawford over Thurman and Spence. I really like Gonzalez, but the stepping to the higher weights looks to be hurting the little bloke. Just his record alone must give Gonzalez the edge over Crawford for mine. But that will probably change in the next two years. The big question is, where do these two little guys stand against Golovkin and Canelo Alvarez? I think the games Canelo has played leaves him short of GGG, he needs to step up. This super fight between the will sort it all out, but until then ... GGG. So for me.
1. Ward.
2. Golovkin.
3. Gonzalez.
4. Crawford.
5. Rigondeaux.
6. Alvarez.
7. Lomachenko. (with a bullet). Maybe he should be 3. I told ya' it was hard .
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And the boxing fan still awaits news on the next David Bellew fight. Dave has mentioned a heavyweight title clash, but balks at the thought of taking on either Joshua or Wilder, rightfully claiming that they're both a bit on the big side. Then there was the talk of the Parker belt, but nothing seems to be coming of it. So, the latest named mentioned? Andre Ward. Yep, the Kovalev crusher. Ward is on record as saying. "We're businessmen, let's do it."
A small chance or no chance?
A small chance or no chance?
The Manny Pacquiao - Jeff Horn fight in Sunday, means next to nothing to the boxing world at large, but it's huge here in Australia. The WBO Welterweight Championship fight has Manny at 1-4 with Horn at 9-2, and the betting will probably carry the weight by fight's end. As much as I'd like to see the bloke who lives a 100k away gets the nod, he's probably going to take a pounding. I've watched film of both men training, and Manny's hand speed looks far too quick for Jeff. But Jeff can hit, he has that puncher's chance. The one thing that's turning a lot of heads though, is the thinking of Horn's trainer Glenn Rushton. He's talking up a storm. I watch his chats and come away convinced that Horn is in with a shot, but then when I re-watch the Manny clips, my heart sinks. Manny is up for $10 million and Jeff half a million.
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Nigel Benn v Steve Collins...52yr old v 53yr old. They ain't going to commission this are they 
Will almost make the McGregor/Mayweather fight look legitimate/valid. Crazy stuff lads, at this rate we'll be looking forward to the Lewis v Tyson rematch in about 10 years from now!
Will almost make the McGregor/Mayweather fight look legitimate/valid. Crazy stuff lads, at this rate we'll be looking forward to the Lewis v Tyson rematch in about 10 years from now!