An example of toxic party politics
No... I simply want to show the hypocrisy of how the media have portrayed Corbyn....
THE RESULTS... Neither strong nor stable
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No... I simply want to show the hypocrisy of how the media have portrayed Corbyn....
Read it again. The Conservatives losing their majority at the general election................
...and of course we know why dont we...certain ... interests...
...so we have a broken party in Govt with less seats than before... making out it is somehow the will of the people.. when over half its own MPs want its own leader to go..
..again can you not go just a little more deep and and perhaps a tad objective in your postings?
I think we (the UK) are in a bit of a mess at the moment. Possibly at a crossroads at the wrong time. And there is a lack of stability.
But to put it in context you wouldn't want what is happening in Spain. For sure people here (in Spain) envy the UK constitution and set up
Looks as if we here have some stability for a time at least. Macron has 80% support in the latest polls and looks like a genuine leader.
This is just getting a bit boring SH..... your inflexibility to consider any option other than one line rhetoric.... is not the stance of political diplomacy
I think we (the UK) are in a bit of a mess at the moment. Possibly at a crossroads at the wrong time. And there is a lack of stability.
But to put it in context you wouldn't want what is happening in Spain. For sure people here (in Spain) envy the UK constitution and set up
Despite the Tories losing their majority they still possessed the manifesto which made them the most popular and chosen party for government. The Tories have been the preferred political party for years and will continue to be so.
I think you find it difficult to accept the reality of the situation. Despite a wobble the Tories are very much on line to continue to govern the UK. The electorate prefer the Tories, not much you do about that.
Can you not for once consider the precariousness of our Govt... propped up by a right wing sectarian party?
I don't give a toss about whether it is the Tories in this... we have now the very opposite of strong and stable the values you have espoused for the last few weeks.
If it was Corbyn and the SNP you would be saying exactly what i am saying i am sure??
Not good for our Country....
The Times newspaper that supported the Tories before the election have the following within their editorial today.
“The Conservatives’ calamitous showing in the election has left Britain effectively leaderless at a moment when its fate depends on leadership.
“This crisis has been years in the making. Mrs May’s party believes that government is in its DNA. Yet it has failed to win a majority in five of the past six general elections and it has left the country all but ungovernable as a consequence of two extraordinary miscalculations.
“Mrs May is now fatally wounded. If she does not realise this it is another grave misjudgment. More likely, she is steeling herself to provide what continuity she can as her party girds itself for an election to replace her.”
“The Conservatives’ calamitous showing in the election has left Britain effectively leaderless at a moment when its fate depends on leadership.
“This crisis has been years in the making. Mrs May’s party believes that government is in its DNA. Yet it has failed to win a majority in five of the past six general elections and it has left the country all but ungovernable as a consequence of two extraordinary miscalculations.
“Mrs May is now fatally wounded. If she does not realise this it is another grave misjudgment. More likely, she is steeling herself to provide what continuity she can as her party girds itself for an election to replace her.”
We are where we are, the alternative of a borrow and spend Corbyn government is too dreadful to contemplate. I suppose another election is not too far away.
Why was my post quoted in there????
On this one I was on your side. My point was that in the UK:
You can debate without fear of arrest.
You, anyone who can raise £500 (and if you can't find friends to stump up that you need to ask yourself serious questions,) can stand in an election.
Even the Raving Loonies (and I mean no disrespect in anyway to them) will help towards costs. (Sorry possibly other parties do not do that?)
There are many public meetings anyone can attend.
There are interviewers on TV who will give politicians a very hard time.
There is a degree of transparency (far more than in Spain).
Scotland gets referendums from time to time.
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Cologne and others have very clearly pointed out that borrow and spend is what the Tories have been doing every time they have been in Govt....It is just what you spend it on.
There are differing economic views and most non-politicized economists will not see the Labour approach any worse than the Tory approach.... both approaches are invested in economic growth..
I have a much more conservative approach to personal finance myself so it is not as if I am a diehard left-wing economist... far from it.
Cologne's borrowing figures are skewed by Labour massive debts which the Tories inherited in 2010.
The stock market and financial investment in the UK would crash if there was any chance of the current Labour Party gaining power. There is plenty of past evidence of incompetence and most of McDonnell's plan would horrify the business community. In that dreadful scenario we would need several years warning to liquidise our assets.
There is no evidence based on previous labour govts that this would happen.
In any case what I am suggesting is that more investment in a more equal society is what is needed.
I agree about the contribution of cricket to World peace - it is the greatest sedative known to man, and sleeping men don't start wars.I hope you guys are keeping an eye on the cricket. England could send the Aus home early today and if they do so the roar from Bangladesh will probably create a tsunami.
Cricket, the greatest contributor to world peace
But I was being serious. Watching Pakistan play India, and Afghanistan participating on the world stage. And watching the delight of the Bangladesh team yesterday. The only thing I miss from the past is batsmen walking rather than waiting for a decision when they know they nicked it. But sorry back to the political war. I'm off for the cricket and later the football against the auld enemy.
But sorry back to the political war. I'm off for the cricket and later the football against the auld enemy.
Enjoy
