And yet they keep getting voted in...hmmm....wonder what that makes Labour and the sad, pathetic losers who vote for them
Even bigger ****s I guess
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And yet they keep getting voted in...hmmm....wonder what that makes Labour and the sad, pathetic losers who vote for them
Even bigger ****s I guess
Enough is enough is just the latest soundbite, they don't want to infringe their 'human rights'.
You don't get put on one of these bloody terror lists for no good reason. All reaction, no prevention with our government sadly.
If a dozen MPs were blown up or stabbed to death perhaps that might be considered 'enough is enough'.
Sorry to be a downer but I'm expecting another attack this week given the election is coming up. Sincerely hope I'm wrong.
Their is one small flaw in your argument here
Police budget under Labour in 2010 £2.8bn
Police budget 2017 £3.7bn
Shut the door on your way out
Their is one small flaw in your argument here
Police budget under Labour in 2010 £2.8bn
Police budget 2017 £3.7bn
Shut the door on your way out
So we both agree thats a real terms cut then..
But the point i made was police numbers have fallen. Both the number of police officers as a whole and armed officers are down. Or do you think the police and tory government are making it up?
You could have another 30.000 coppers on the payroll, it wouldn't stop these savage doing these kind of atrocities, its the limp wristed ****s running the show that is the problem, they're too scared to tackle it head on
We would have 10,000 extra police who would only be allowed to tell terrorists off.
My party of choice. The 99p coin they wanted to bring in years ago was the best manifesto item I've ever seen!
Would love to see your source for that.Their is one small flaw in your argument here
Police budget under Labour in 2010 £2.8bn
Police budget 2017 £3.7bn
Shut the door on your way out
This independent charity says that since 2010 there has been a headline drop in funding of 18% (was 25% drop in government funding, recovered to 18% be raising funds locally).
It further says that from 2001-10 there was an increase of 31%.
https://fullfact.org/crime/police-funding-england-and-wales/
Presently I'm inclined to believe the independent charity that provides sources, but prepared to be convinced otherwise with more than a simple bare post on here.
The powers are largely there, but nobody has the time and resources to enforce them.
That means no time to do proper checks at borders, no time to do background checks, no time to gather intelligence on the street and no time to be out and about on street as a detterent.
As a three examples.
Theresa May as home secretary scrapped control orders and replaced them with much weaker powers,
Theresa May outsourced the border agency to private complanies such as Capita. Any private companies first duty is to deliver a profit for shareholders.
The labour government 97-08 brought in the pointless pcso role as police numbers had been cut so much by majors government because we couldnt afford to employ proper coppers, a huge mistake. Theresa may has increased the proportion of uniformed staff that are pcso as home secretary and pm, and she has introduced private companies into huge parts of what used to be the police service all reduce ploice numbers and siphon money to pay share holders ot generate profit.
And the flaw in your argument is that money will not buy now what it would have bought under LabourTheir is one small flaw in your argument here
Police budget under Labour in 2010 £2.8bn
Police budget 2017 £3.7bn
Shut the door on your way out
I see the Tories are looking at bringing in new laws to restrict the movement of people on watch lists,and I see the liberals and Corbyn have already started shouting about the Terrorists human rights 
no surprises there then.
no surprises there then.
brisbane-lion
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It's a far out idea, but how about 'electro-tagging' those on watch lists? At least then you would have some idea of where they are and who they are meeting. On a little less serious note, the tags could be explosive and if more than, say, three of them meet together, they all explode!! Neat. 