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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
There's always a difference if you want to find one.

If we are doing quotes:

'I agreed with the shooting of British Soldiers and believed the more who were killed the better'
I think you can guess who that was ?

Here's another difference. Gatland has seen the error of her ways and apologised. Corbyn refuses to apologise. How can he possibly be fit to command our armed forces?
 
Posted it because it's the only info I've seen on the cost of no deal, which is what you were asking about. If it's remotely accurate (as I say, I have no idea) and the government knows it, would seem to raise the chances of us paying up to me.

Perhaps, so long as the EU don't stay anywhere near Euro 100 billion
 
Here's another difference. Gatland has seen the error of her ways and apologised. Corbyn refuses to apologise. How can he possibly be fit to command our armed forces?

What is Corbyn being asked to apologise for exactly ?

I suggest we'll have to agree to disagree, mate, 'cos we ain't gonna change each other's opinions.
 
This is fast becoming the most ludicrous election campaign in living memory. The Tories seem to be determined to shoot themselves in both feet whilst performing U-turns in a dismally negative campaign. On the other hand Labour are cleverly ramping up the pressure with a promise they can't afford every day, today's being wiping clean this year's student debt, a mere £10 billion. It's working as the Tory lead gradually evaporates, so I wonder what other freebies Jezza will offer to keep the momentum up in the next three weeks? I rather fancy two weeks in the Seychelles with £1,000 spending money, certainly cheaper than the student debt promise...<laugh>
 
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I'm enjoying (probably the wrong word, but anyway...) watching the major parties continue to try and understand what the electorate actually wants, so they can offer it. Once upon a time, political groups stood for something they thought was important and tried to persuade the voters to agree. Now it seems the manifestos get written after consulting wth focus groups.

The trick now is trying to work out which policies a party really believes in and will deliver if they win and which policies are just there to persuade people to vote for them and probably will never happen. I can't work any of it out.

For those who won't vote Labour because they don't think their sums add up and they'll bankrupt the country... Well, who on earth would vote for a political principle despite accepting that it would be economic disaster for us all. Oh... wait a minute...
 
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Jeremy Hunt hung out to dry by his boss, after he was sent out to say that there was no way the dementia tax would be capped, and then she changed her mind, while pretending not to.

Hunt must be a dead man walking. Nurses thinking of striking, NHS in vortex of doom, and a fantastic story about his performance at a disaster planning game in the nuclear bunker under the ministry of defence last December. Apparently him, the hideous Penny Mordaunt and a Justice Minister called Lee were meant to pretend to make the decisions in a scenario where a pandemic had incapacitated most of the rest of the government (and country). When asked to decide whether to turn off the life support on 100 people who were very unlikely to survive, so some slightly fitter people could be treated, Hammond froze, could not make a decision. Mordaunt offered nothing, and the most junior, Lee, had to persuade the room to turn the machines off in the interests of the many. Govt has complained about leaks but no denial of story.

Boris caught sneaking a peak at questions Pesto was preparing to ask him - and still ****ed the answers up. When quizzed on 'where's the £350m?' he said it was in the manifesto and May had talked about it at the launch. Both easily checkable lies.

Getting the second bit of the Andrew Neill on May. Her only response to 'why should voters trust you on immigration etc when you have failed to deliver on them in the last seven years' is 'we are more trustworthy than Labour'. I hope she sinks like a stone. She said Labour want 'uncontrolled migration' about ten times, which as far as I can is also a lie (they don't have an explicit plan, but say numbers need to be managed). She's really suffering. Excellent. I used to dislike Andrew Neill on principle, but he is a very good interviewer and commentator. He can get a politician squirming without talking over them like Humphreys or Mair. Could get embarrassing for Nuttalls, Corbyn and Timmy.
 
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Jeremy Hunt hung out to dry by his boss, after he was sent out to say that there was no way the dementia tax would be capped, and then she changed her mind, while pretending not to.

Hunt must be a dead man walking. Nurses thinking of striking, NHS in vortex of doom, and a fantastic story about his performance at a disaster planning game in the nuclear bunker under the ministry of defence last December. Apparently him, the hideous Penny Mordaunt and a Justice Minister called Lee were meant to pretend to make the decisions in a scenario where a pandemic had incapacitated most of the rest of the government (and country). When asked to decide whether to turn off the life support on 100 people who were very unlikely to survive, so some slightly fitter people could be treated, Hammond froze, could not make a decision. Mordaunt offered nothing, and the most junior, Lee, had to persuade the room to turn the machines off in the interests of the many. Govt has complained about leaks but no denial of story.

Boris caught sneaking a peak at questions Pesto was preparing to ask him - and still ****ed the answers up. When quizzed on 'where's the £350m?' he said it was in the manifesto and May had talked about it at the launch. Both easily checkable lies.

Getting the second bit of the Andrew Neill on May. Her only response to 'why should voters trust you on immigration etc when you have failed to deliver on them in the last seven years' is 'we are more trustworthy than Labour'. I hope she sinks like a stone. She said Labour want 'uncontrolled migration' about ten times, which as far as I can she is also a lie. She's really suffering. Excellent.

The plan to throw the election is going better than they could have hoped.
 
Getting the second bit of the Andrew Neill on May. Her only response to 'why should voters trust you on immigration etc when you have failed to deliver on them in the last seven years' is 'we are more trustworthy than Labour'. I hope she sinks like a stone. She said Labour want 'uncontrolled migration' about ten times, which as far as I can is also a lie (they don't have an explicit plan, but say numbers need to be managed). She's really suffering. Excellent. I used to dislike Andrew Neill on principle, but he is a very good interviewer and commentator. He can get a politician squirming without talking over them like Humphreys or Mair. Could get embarrassing for Nuttalls, Corbyn and Timmy.

Funnily enough I met Andrew Neil a few days ago, only in passing.
He was a very nice guy and seemed very cheerful. I liked him even more than I did before.
 
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I am staggered at how this election is going....but still 2 weeks to go ...things can really change right up to the last few days ( a terrorist attack could swing the polls right around for example)
Mays spin doctors will be working over time in the next week.

Let's hope tonight's events in Manchester aren't the swing you were talking about Beth
 
I was taking my girls to the O2 to see Ariana Grande on Thursday. Who are these ****s bombing kids?

Some ****ed up scumbag ****s who should be wiped off the face of the earth......
I'm still hoping it ain't a bomb, not that it makes it any better, but looking more likely with every minute
 
Some ****ed up scumbag ****s who should be wiped off the face of the earth......
I'm still hoping it ain't a bomb, not that it makes it any better, but looking more likely with every minute

I'm hearing that it was balloons filled with gas that exploded and caused a stampede. Everyone fled in terror and some poor folks got crushed. Tragic if true. Sad times mate.