I'm not wondering anything. I've known a few Dean Windass charactors. A key thing for him was finishing in Hull, his home city. If any of us do a job we have to adapt to it. I'm not judging him or his life, as, if you knew me you would laugh at that. But he has the job, I'd come to terms with it, but he really should not do what he is doing. If people are staying stop, then you have to ask would a good guy do so. Is he a good man? Perhaps not, maybe more of a bit of a lad.
Fair enough I don't completely agree, but I see where you're coming from Doesn't resolve the question about what it looks like to others though, and I think it looks a bit crap protesting when you've gone down rather protesting when you're at home to a 'big' club in the middle of the season
I see that, and as I said I'm always happy to protest (about most things!) My point really was that I don't think protesting should have stopped in the first place
The red card thing was the first and only thing that got everyone on the same side, should have kept that up even though that was also near the end of the season.
By far the most effective, and was great 'branding' so whenever they came out, at home, away...at Wembley!... everyone would have known exactly what they meant
I think the main thrust of the protests, that did take place, was to emphasise the general desire of the supporters for the owners to sell up and stop being ****s. They didn't sell, they said it was on hold until the end of the season - it's the end of the season. Protest, on those terms, was pointless and self-defeating, when combined with the rallying call of the manager. It was all very clear in the time-line. It was done correctly and if there are those who can't se that then **** em. It took most a very long time to catch on to the Allam's ****isness, so why worry? We know who we are, we'll die and protest when we want, ta.
I'm not worried in the slightest Silva would have been just as happy with a noisy stadium that protested too mind you...his main issue at first was that no one was there Anyway I'm fine with protesting...so what's to be done?
Posted at the time what a great idea it was, nothing to pay, nothing to join, no extra time to give up. Even those who were not shall we say radical would pick up and show the card if all those around them are doing it.
Sorry, I thought you were when you said: "Doesn't resolve the question about what it looks like to others though" .......... .............. nothing for me; as I said earlier in ground protests are pointless, on Saturday. Just don't go; but that's up to you. Edit.
No, I wasn't But then again I thought you were supporting the idea of an in ground protest on Saturday so it just goes to show...
Maybe we should copy Newcastle fans, who after failing in their campaign to oust him, have stuck with their chairman, and look where they are now.
Fair enough. But as I posted this, to you, I fail to see how you came to your final conclusion. Goes to show ...
Bloody hell Dennis; you ignore a very clear statement to make your own assumptions. What has the line you quote got to do with my personal choice of whether to protest in the ground or not? It clearly spoke of the rights of others to protest, if they wish; just as , if you honestly left it in it's context, it responded to your comment about 'why now and not before?'. You seem to have not read my original response to you, but are more likely just ignoring it for arguments sake. Enough, it is very clearly there to see and your mistake was fairly pointed out. Bye.
I wasn't arguing at all Fez...and it's certainly not a big deal But I never once suggested that you were going to protest in the ground either You just said you failed to see how I thought that you might be 'supporting the idea of an in ground protest' so I simply pointed out an example of why I thought that's what you meant. I think you say the same above too when you're talking about the rights of others to protest But I'm more than happy to accept I might have misunderstood that. It really doesn't matter. It is probably just us both misunderstanding each other...yet again
