I actually hate Moyes
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I have to say that for the first time I have lost interest in watching Sunderland. Moyes is just so depressing and his team so uninspired that its demoralising to be a fan. Blame the allardyce affair for the bad start to the season, but not for the shocking finish. Please go Moyes.
Give him time, he's a proven PL manager and has inherited a mess of a team from his previous manager.
See, that's how it felt for me too.
See, that's how it felt for me too.
History is littered with proven managers who fall by the wayside, Moyes looks like one of them to me. Hope I am wrong of course, otherwise there is no hope for SAFC in the short term. No pun intended.
So that works as logic to stick with a manager who has failed on every level, completely lost the fan base, and players don't want to play for him ! He's sucked all the life out of the football club.
Sack him and bring someone new in who will bring the fans back on board and inject some much needed optimism and atmosphere into the club.
Moyes is a cancer and the longer he stays the worse it gets.
The life was well gone by the time he turned up. It's been bleeding out of us for the last five years and it's finally gone.
Moyes is a bit of a clown. The administration is at fault for the relegation. Any manager we hire will do exactly the same as he has, if not worse. We simply can't attract a decent manager.
We did but he ****ed off to England.
And he's the last one we'll have for a while. That was one good appointment in what, the last 10?
Di Canio, Poyet, Advocaat, and Allardyce were all good appointments. They fought hard to get results and to build teams under what you yourself admit were hugely difficult circumstances caused by those higher up in the club. They continued to fight until the lazy players went crying about the nasty man to the CEO, until the owner panicked and sacked them, or until they couldn't put up with Short's **** any longer. Moyes has shown none of the fight, nous, or interest of any of those managers. He simply showed up as a defeated man and failed to motivate anyone, to show any depth of tactical ability, or to have any knowledge of the free-transfer market besides his old friends.
All ones that kept us up.
They all left us sliding towards the championship. They delayed us going but didn't help in the slightest. We were lumbered with more and more ****ty players that the next manager didn't want and couldn't get rid of.
Fat Sam did a decent job but we needed him to stick around to see it through. He didn't and the slide further into debt and into the championship finished under the current clown we've got.
Bit nervous that we'll end up with Warnock or Pardew to be honest. Moyes isn't up to much but he's better than them.
Only to a certain extent - Moyes has to be held accountable to some degree - people have already mentioned his downfalls so not going to bother repeating them.
Would have been nice to actually see them go down with a bit of fight instead of a whimper.
I wrote something similar last year whilst enduring the McLaren demise (and that followed Carver!). When we got relegated last season it was hard to feel too bothered by it as it just felt like the natural conclusion to a tedious decline. Given the positions Sunderland have been in for years I'd say your decline has been even more drawn out and it is hard to muster up strong emotion.
Honestly, the 'banter' last season from Sunderland fans came across mostly as relief in a "there but by the grace of god go us" manner rather than anything more. This season Newcastle fans seemed mostly to be reserved as we went down last year and both clubs have a legitimate concern that for the coming years this could be our roles. (Hopefully) too good for the Championship but not particularly good enough for the Premiership.
The Championship is a good league (I believe around the 5th most watched in Europe but my 'recollections' have been fairly iffy of late...) with lots of good teams and fans. It's certainly more enjoyable than watching a poor team get mullered in the Premiership. Unlike most Newcastle fans I'm mostly apprehensive about next year.