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vimhawk said:
So the way it works it seems is that the "greatest" club competition in the world is decided by the refs rather than the teams on the field. Bit like the rest of football then. You spend the whole season trying to get into the thing, maybe several matches in it, and then the ref ****s you over. But that's football all the pundits cry. But it shouldn't be! What happened to getting the right result? When will they learn that the senior referee needs to be off the field, with the video tech, so that he can overrule the guy on the field when there's a clear mistake (if not clear then he doesn't say anything!) So it's subjective. Yes it is, but far less so than just relying on the guy on the field. And it might take a few seconds longer? Possibly, but apparently it's ok to watch teams wasting several minutes feigning injury, complaining or otherwise cheating. There's plenty of wasted time in a match but apparently a few seconds to get the right decision in a really important match is not possible.
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It is especially important in knockout competitions where there is less chance for them 'to even themselves out'
 
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The whole of officiating and the rules of football need overhauling really. Football is in the dark ages compared to other sports. It's like having a guy with a stop watch for the 100m sprint and trying to time Usain Bolt. The rules need clarifying and simplifying again, leave no (or as little as possible) room for doubt. Set out what is and what isn't acceptable. Bring in more retroactive punishment whether or not the referee has already seen it and deemed it wasn't an offence because it was Man United or Diego Costa for clear instances of cheating (e.g. diving, feigning injury, hitting opposition players). Immediate lifetime bans for being John Terry, Charlie Adams or Sergio Ramos. And video technology to be explored to push the boundaries of what is possible (whey the fook are offside decisions in a high speed sport left to some tubby bloke with a flag. I've run the line before and it is bloody difficult sometimes to see/hear when a ball is hit and where any attacking players are at that exact same moment). Time for football to be a leader rather than a reluctant follower.
 
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It was a great match between 2 good sides. Then the ref decided it with a number of really obviously wrong decisions. All of them in favour of Real. I'm no great lover of Bayern but they were cheated out of it last night and wasn't subtly done either.

Given that they are sponsored by the Spanish government and have the freedom to unsettle any players they see fit and then pay them vast sums of money from a bankrupt national purse, do they need to have all of UEFA in their pockets too?
 
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"Thanks for that Brian" said:
It was a great match between 2 good sides. Then the ref decided it with a number of really obviously wrong decisions. All of them in favour of Real. I'm no great lover of Bayern but they were cheated out of it last night and wasn't subtly done either.

Given that they are sponsored by the Spanish government and have the freedom to unsettle any players they see fit and then pay them vast sums of money from a bankrupt national purse, do they need to have all of UEFA in their pockets too?
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I'm still seething over the way South Korea were allowed to progress to the semi finals of the 2002 world cup, courtesy of 3 incorrectly disallowed goals for Italy (and Totti sent off for no obvious reason) and Spain. Whilst unproven, it was effing obvious that Fifa told referees what the results should be.
 
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gericalo said:
I'm still seething over the way South Korea were allowed to progress to the semi finals of the 2002 world cup, courtesy of 3 incorrectly disallowed goals for Italy (and Totti sent off for no obvious reason) and Spain. Whilst unproven, it was effing obvious that Fifa told referees what the results should be.
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The other suggestion (by me) is, as the team was called Korea for the tournament instead of South Korea, referees were afraid that Kim Jong-il might have been upset if the team lost.
 
"Thanks for that Brian" said:
It was a great match between 2 good sides. Then the ref decided it with a number of really obviously wrong decisions. All of them in favour of Real. I'm no great lover of Bayern but they were cheated out of it last night and wasn't subtly done either.

Given that they are sponsored by the Spanish government and have the freedom to unsettle any players they see fit and then pay them vast sums of money from a bankrupt national purse, do they need to have all of UEFA in their pockets too?
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Need? No. Want? Yes.
 
Spur of the Moment said:
Thanks for the heads up!!
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Not sure about freeview, but my previous experience of games on virgin showcase is that they are on freeview, too. This was a while ago, so they may have stopped it now. But I've checked virgin and it's definitely on channel 548, for those who have it <ok>
 
Roo said:
Not sure about freeview, but my previous experience of games on virgin showcase is that they are on freeview, too. This was a while ago, so they may have stopped it now. But I've checked virgin and it's definitely on channel 548, for those who have it <ok>
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It's on freeview :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
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Monaco already one up on the night. Guess it would be some consolation if they ended up winning the bloody thing!! <laugh>
 
Monaco v Dortmund is an enthralling game. As they have in most rounds so far, the Principality side ran out of steam after about 60mins, but can still rely on the pace of Mbappe and Lemar to get them out of trouble. Far better defensively than they were last year too.
 
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