This guy is so negative and has not got a clue about keeping our great club in the top tier of English football ,and MUST go.His tactics are so bad that Jermaine and our front players have so few chances to score.He has been picking the wrong players from our squad and not given such as Khazri a chance.....someone who helped us stay-up last season.Big Sam would have kept us safe with this squad!
Please go Moyes!
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Think anyone would have struggled with this squad to be fair but Moyes has some blind faith in certain players. I mean why was Denayer played as a cm today when Ndong was in the bench. Why the **** is Gibson anywhere near the team?
Borini and Januzaj have 1 prem goal between them which is a ****ing joke by the way. Is that poor players or overly defensive tactics?
Moyes does hold some blame for continuously trying the same players and system but barring Khazri does he really have an alternative?
Yes we've been ****ed with injuries but all season long our CM has been weak as piss which is why we can't seem to control a game. I mean Rodwell Gibson and Debater would struggle in the championship.
Borini and Januzaj have 1 prem goal between them which is a ****ing joke by the way. Is that poor players or overly defensive tactics?
Moyes does hold some blame for continuously trying the same players and system but barring Khazri does he really have an alternative?
Yes we've been ****ed with injuries but all season long our CM has been weak as piss which is why we can't seem to control a game. I mean Rodwell Gibson and Debater would struggle in the championship.
The end of last season we had the nucleus of a good squad. An excellent striker, four good supporting forwards/wingers,two parts of a good midfield three in M'Vila and Kirchhoff, and two good centre backs. Injuries and wantaway players haven't helped but that nucleus hasn't been built on. In fact, it was largely dismantled. Some of those things aren't Moyes fault but Lens shouldn't have been allowed to leave and M'Vila should have been signed when we had the chance. The signings that have been made haven't adequately replaced those players and that is Moyes fault as they are mainly his signings. The negative tactics are also his fault- he could have set his team up differently. We're crap, we would have been crap no matter who was manager, but we potentially could have been comfortably less crap than 3 other teams.
Looks like were going down, but no matter who is manager after the season, we have to have a massive clear out and the there will be players who want to leave, you could be looking up to 15 players including the loan players we have.
I think it will take all of next season to have any form of a decent team so I would expect mid table and to do that we have to sign a lot of players in the summer and for once hope we get it right.
Ellis Short has to sell or if not give Millions to start from scratch.
I think it will take all of next season to have any form of a decent team so I would expect mid table and to do that we have to sign a lot of players in the summer and for once hope we get it right.
Ellis Short has to sell or if not give Millions to start from scratch.
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We're ****ed, Moyes is an utter disaster.
Clueless **** persist with that Belgian twat.
Can anybody tell me why?
Clueless **** persist with that Belgian twat.
Can anybody tell me why?
Must be gay boys pal.
I think what's has become apparent and surely has to be the end of Moyes is he will not bring us back up, he will not galvanise us in that or any division. Now don't be fooled by the mags praising rafas part in their season they spent more than a few clubs in our division nevermind theirs and might not even win it. We won't spend half what they have so being greater than the sum of our parts is essential and Moyes will not be the man for that job either
A non motivator simple as that,he has no flair,passion,needed to lift average players when needed ,in fact he pulled the confidence rug away in september when he had the white towel ready then ,same level as oniel if not worse,
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It's conditioned mentality that so many folk on here are hoping for Moyes' head to roll, yep, that guy is useless but ain't **** gonna change no matter who walks through the door, until the big man at the top tumbles.
No doubt the fans will either become apathetic or turn on Moyes, when it's obvious to me that it's the Yank who should be in the crosshairs.
No doubt the fans will either become apathetic or turn on Moyes, when it's obvious to me that it's the Yank who should be in the crosshairs.
I've had my sights on short for a long time but unfortunately we are quite powerless there. We know short is the problem and will run the club his own way that's why we need a manager who can work against the odds and bring the team and supporters together. Its nothing to do with conditioned mentalities wanting him gone most of us just recognise a bad fit and those who use 'stability' as a pro Moyes argument are delusional why would stability be any sort of comfort if we are stably ****? Basically we know we're down we I'd like him gone but it's seems Moyes will get the full season but he must go in the summer and we must find a better candidate for stability one who can work under shorts crushing management, bring young players through and work hard to actually make the city proud of the team again.
tel you were right about the man so AF plus the glaziers were wrong ,we cant sack short can we,same senario applies ,however if AF speaks you would be dumb not to take heed
You think it's nothing to do with the fact that turning over managers has worked in the past? I've seen several posters say exactly the opposite on this very board numerous times.
It's like having damp, paint over it time and time again, it won't fix the main problem.
The fact that you believe you're powerless, is depressing, fans are probably the most powerful thing at any club when they act in numbers.
Just my spin.
AF knows nothing about hiring managers.
Just like Roy Keane was a poor manager.
Being good at one thing doesn't mean you're good at everything associated with it.
Fergie has been humbled by his stupid mistake since day one.
My only hope is Strachan gets the bullet soon and Moyes takes over the Jocks....failing that, I see this loser keeping his job
I really don't there's no saving us now so for me at least I don't want him gone so we stay up I want him gone so we don't fade into nothingness. And I agree our clubs connection to its fans is in a sorry state indeed
Moyes has to start with Ndong and Khasri next week. With Swansea drawing the gap is 8 points, they have to come here but get near them first we have a game in hand. I remember when I wanted them to win at C pal that night and they did but no now ! it's strange picking results. WHU might get dragged back into it with a bit of luck, 34 - 39 points needed though I reckon. The Boro look gone they are terrible up front like us. Also we have the worst midfield we have ever had in the premier league.
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Saturday was the straw that broke the camel's back for me regards to Moyes - Didier N'Dong had one of his best games for us at home against City. He is on the bench for the next game and Darron Gibson - who couldn't pass water - starts ahead of him - N'Dong comes on for Gibson and does an awful lot of work and makes us a much more potent threat against Burnley - he again starts from the bench next game!!
Saturday we sounded much more likely to Score after N'Dong came on than we did at any point in the game beforehand! I wonder if he thinks "The owner has basically said I'm safe so I'll just play my mate from Everton!
Short is useless but Moyes is also pretty rubbish!!