The Premier League Thread

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Utd didn't appeal the decision.

As Le Tiss has been pointing out tonight, that's irrelevant. The FA announced that they were intending to ban Mings for longer before any Bmouth appeal. The extra games for Mings isn't because Bmouth appealed. As far as I understand it.
 
As Le Tiss has been pointing out tonight, that's irrelevant. The FA announced that they were intending to ban Mings for longer before any Bmouth appeal. The extra games for Mings isn't because Bmouth appealed. As far as I understand it.

I'd say it's because it's a dirtier, more dangerous act.

That's just me though.
 
If Mings meant to do what he did, then he deserves the extra ban. Only he will know the answer to that though.

But what I'm struggling to understand is why Zlatan didn't the get same. I'm left in no doubt that he meant what he did. Throw the book hard at both of them, and then at the officials.

Just been listening to Radio 5, and their commentator spoke of the common element of elbows being in the game, whereas stamping is unusual. Hence the greater ban. Personally, I think he was commentating out of his arse. At one point he even mentioned that you wouldn't stamp on a child, which is no more ridiculous that I mention it out of context as he did within the discussion.
 
A deliberate elbow to the head can be just as dangerous if you happen to hit the right (wrong) spot.
I've just realised that the BBC commentator was suggesting that because elbows in the face happen on a fairly regular basis they constitute less punishment than an accidental stamp.

Actually, that's another thing he mentioned. Intent is not taken into account, so accidental or not, the accidental stamper is guilty. And also, the incidents are looked at in isolation, so Ibra's previous conduct in the match made no difference to his punishment. Of course, if you just not look at the previous conduct you can come to the FA's conclusion.
 
Because (luckily), he didn't make a clean contact.

If a player tried to spit in anothers face but missed would you say he shouldn't be banned?
 
Ah, fair enough. Thanks TLL. I must've missed that. Thought he was shown straight red regardless of what he was on previously but obviously I was wrong.

You can blame the referee, given that he took at least 90 seconds between issuing the second yellow and the red. Might have been as much as 3 or 4 minutes.
 
I've just realised that the BBC commentator was suggesting that because elbows in the face happen on a fairly regular basis they constitute less punishment than an accidental stamp.

Actually, that's another thing he mentioned. Intent is not taken into account, so accidental or not, the accidental stamper is guilty. And also, the incidents are looked at in isolation, so Ibra's previous conduct in the match made no difference to his punishment. Of course, if you just not look at the previous conduct you can come to the FA's conclusion.

Which must mean they only looked at Zlatans elbow and ignored his stamp. I don't think Mings stamp was deliberate but it could have been very dangerous so I accept his extra ban. What I don't accept is that Zlatan only got a 3 match ban. How can you throw the book at one stamp and completely pretend another didn't happen? I'm aware that Mings was more dangerous due to the location of his landing but a stamps a stamp and should be stamped down on.
Zlatan should have been sent off in the game for two yellows even ignoring what the ref didn't see (elbow and stamp), how he wasn't booked for throwing Mings to the floor I don't know. Zlatan and Man Utd have gotten off very lightly here...surprise surprise.
 
Are people so disconnected from reality? I played Sunday league for twenty years and had a fair few people land on my head with their boots. It did hurt. However, the few times someone deliberately swung an elbow in my face were far worse. Ibrahimovic takes time to think about it and decides to assault Mings. Even if Mings stamps on Zlatan it is an instictive reaction. How it is worse than what the Man U player does is beyond me.