Fake news is easy to spot:
Fake news: Anything out of Trump's mouth.
Fake news: Antything out if Farage's mouth
Real news: Anything Trump signs with out looking.
Real news: Farage is a ****
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Fake news: Anything out of Trump's mouth.
Fake news: Antything out if Farage's mouth
Real news: Anything Trump signs with out looking.
Real news: Farage is a ****
Farage just said "no-one batted an eye lid when Obama banned Iraqis for 6 months and this plan (that Trump has enacted) was actually drawn up by the Obama administration."
And you believe him on the 2nd part? The first part wasn't a out right Muslim ban either. Trump picked Muslim countries that wouldn't effect the US money wise, just to show he could.
See you are assuming things. I didn't say I believed any of it. My words are exactly what they are. I detailed that Farage just said that. I didn't say if I believe him or not but your turn of phrase "And you believe him on the second part is half the problem here. You assume I believe him.
The reality is that I don't know if what he has said is the truth but I have no doubt if he is lying or massaging the truth there will be an avalanche of BBC fact checking statements this afternoon to counter it. And even then I won't know if Farage has made it up or if the BBC has found a spin to make it sound so. That is the problem. Who decides what fake news is?
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Exactly, just use your brain and it's obvious.
It amazes me when people can't see both sides of an argument.
The spin that comes out of the mouths of the far-right is mind-boggling. People like farage and trump disgust me. Wealthy folk using the poor and uneducated to further themselves. More fool to anyone that laps up their BS.
I was very against brexit, but at least there were genuine reasons to leave.
Trump is just promoting facist idealogies. I think Brexit has made people over here especially sensitive, so I can see there being huge protests when he comes.
You are the one assuming things, I asked you a question that is all. Farage is so far up Trump's orange ass hole, I wouldn't believe anything he says.
Is the following fake news?
The public should be suspicious of Trump’s policies and the media should speak truth to power and demand answers from the administration. But the media should also be truthful with the public and instead of claiming Trump singled out seven countries, it should note that the US Congress and Obama’s Department of Homeland Security had singled out these countries. It should have told us about theTerrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 rather than pretend this list was invented in 2017. Trump’s executive order said “countries of concern,” it didn’t make a list. That list was already made, last year and years before.
https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/2...lim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/
The public should be suspicious of Trump’s policies and the media should speak truth to power and demand answers from the administration. But the media should also be truthful with the public and instead of claiming Trump singled out seven countries, it should note that the US Congress and Obama’s Department of Homeland Security had singled out these countries. It should have told us about theTerrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 rather than pretend this list was invented in 2017. Trump’s executive order said “countries of concern,” it didn’t make a list. That list was already made, last year and years before.
https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/2...lim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/
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That is your basis is it? He writes for the Spectator so it is fake news. What about the lefties that write for the Spectator? Are they fake too?
It is quite something when the basis of judging this is "he writes for the Spectator so it is fake" and I get called a bigot for saying the Guardian is the same?
Is what he has said in that sentence I put there true, massaged, stretched or false?
It is quite something when the basis of judging this is "he writes for the Spectator so it is fake" and I get called a bigot for saying the Guardian is the same?
Is what he has said in that sentence I put there true, massaged, stretched or false?
I am assuming like you did to me. Looking at his Twitter and a lot of his articles he has a very high opinion of hiself while trashing others. I have no clue if what he is said as there isn't enough info out there, so it is filed under "unknown rumour" for me.
In any case Obama didn't force him to sign to ban these 7 countries. So he is just trying to blame others for being a twat.
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You would add almost every author on the internet to that list if you are assessing it on "has a high opinion of self while trashing others." Seems they all do that these days.
Why I hardly read news. I only post the stuff that 99% of news all agree is happening etc. Like all the crazy **** Trump is signing without reading. I bet if the Nazi gave him a paper to stop freedom of speech in more then 1000 words Trump would sign.
I don't post everything I read. Most of the stuff I post is being said by everyone and not just one paper and is actually happening or happend. Do you fact check every thing you post? Do you fact check what UKIP said?
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I don't promote UKIP nor vote for them.
My point is that the MSM is pushing the "Donald Trump selected countries he has no business interest in" when the fact is these countries are named in the act that Obama passed. It is misleading and untrue that Donald Trump selected these countries yet you say it is fine because "it is being said by everyone and not just one paper."
Donald Trump will hang himself if he keeps on tweeting stuff like above but that does not counter the fact that the "trustworthy" media is ignoring facts and misleading the public with their stories.
Is what is happening good or right? No. They can and should voice their disgust.
Did Donald Trump select countries that he had no business interest in? No and they shouldn't be pushing that angle as it then casts doubt upon everything else they write.
How do you know it is untrue? Why did he sign it in the first place? Why didn't he add countries to it? You know like the Saudis who are one of the worst out the lot. Even if Obama did create it he didn't act on it. So I don't really see that it matters. It's all to easy to blame Obama when he isn't in charge.
Who is blaming Obama. Did Obama pass acts that named those 7 countries? Why did Obama not include the Saudis? Why is there not a petition on the parliament petition site for all the countries like Saudi, Russia, China etc?
No-one is blaming Obama, merely pointing out that Trump's administration is using the existing act. Maybe they will include or add other countries but at the moment they are using the existing policy as a basis.
And if you think it is true that he did select countries that he did not have business interests in then don;t you think that would be a huge co-incidence that they are the same 7 countries previously named by the past administration in their act?
We are never going to agree tbh. You try to look at the small things of a bigger picture. The bigger picture is the thing doing the damage. To me it doesn't matter who made the bill it matters who signed it and made it law. The person who is causing all this pain to many of it's own citizens. No politician is 100% good even Obama. But at least he didn't do this crap and this has only been Trump's first week!
You are either missing, or deliberately ignoring, the blindingly obvious here Imps.
Obama is a mainstream politician with respect for the rule of law. In fact, he's a Law School graduate.
Trump is a deluded demagogue, with scant respect for anything.
Beats me how you can fail to see that.