Ireland would never vote for Independence, where will they work?
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As the country with the largest economic growth within Europe for the 3rd year running, they would work here, of course.
PS - we took our Independence 100 years ago from the UK. Sorry, 101 years ago now.
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The finance minister, Michael Noonan, said: "When you're in the catchup phase of an economy after a recession you'll get very high growth figures in the early stages, but as it settles I would hope we will have growth of around 3% for the next five years."
Dublin said the news showed that the sacrifices of the Irish people, and policies designed to increase exports, had borne fruit. Ministers are already debating how to spend higher-than-forecast tax revenues, less than a year after the country finished its three-year EU-International Monetary Fund bailout programme.
lets all hope it lasts fingy
Dublin said the news showed that the sacrifices of the Irish people, and policies designed to increase exports, had borne fruit. Ministers are already debating how to spend higher-than-forecast tax revenues, less than a year after the country finished its three-year EU-International Monetary Fund bailout programme.
lets all hope it lasts fingy
Indeed Kiwi, so far so good. Brexit isn't ideal but there you go. So far more positives for us than negatives although that could easily change.
The main driver is money men playing roulette with currencies and betting on future outcomes, many of which they themselves are manipulating.
Sorry Finglas it won't happen. Come back in a few weeks and you'll see these companies staying put. London is the banking and services capital. I heard an American recently (I may have already posted) saying None of those EU countries come close to London. I remember Ryanair and Other companies saying they would leave... They haven't. It is all saber rattling. We will come back and discuss in future.
I really hope you're right, Ellers, but I believe your passionate support for Brexit is blinding you to the downside that comes with it. London is the Americans favourite because they can live here and come and visit without needing to learn another language. Our culture is closest to their own - even if they don't like the food or dentistry... They are, however, in business to make money, and they will act to avoid any potential reduction in revenue by moving that part of their business out of the UK unless something else happens which means they don't need to.
Now - some may say that doesn't matter because it will do us good to be less reliant on banking in the longer term. It might turn out to be true, who knows? What is likely, though, is a lot of people will suffer in the short to medium term - not just unemployed banking people, as you can't be a government spending money for everyone if there is less tax revenue from the businesses and the people they used to employ. We have to get creative in the way we do things in the future or it will be very painful.
The banks won't shut up shop on day one, so of course your prediction (above) to Finglas will be correct. It won't change overnight, but it will be a very different landscape in a couple of years.
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Regarding the market price of GBP
If Mrs May does make the speech that people are saying she will make later on today, we'll probably see another drop in the market value of GBP. Currency speculators don't like to risk money on uncertainties. No-one knows what will happen, so they'll be cautious and not risk leaving their money in our currency (and therefore affecting its trading price) unless there is another factor (like generous interest rates on deposits) that mitigates that risk.
I hope it doesn't happen, BTW. Imported food and raw materials are expensive enough.
If Mrs May does make the speech that people are saying she will make later on today, we'll probably see another drop in the market value of GBP. Currency speculators don't like to risk money on uncertainties. No-one knows what will happen, so they'll be cautious and not risk leaving their money in our currency (and therefore affecting its trading price) unless there is another factor (like generous interest rates on deposits) that mitigates that risk.
I hope it doesn't happen, BTW. Imported food and raw materials are expensive enough.
Regarding the US wanting to make a trading agreement with us
Post actual Brexit, we will be in a weaker position for a while. Mrs May will want to demonstrate a success - for political and party reasons. We'll find that the UK signs up to a TTIP-light (just us rather than the 28 countries of todays EU) that means we'll be forced to accept food products from the USA that will be cheap (and much of our imported food is increasing in price because of GBP drops) but stuffed with chemicals that are currently not permitted in our food today.
I use the word 'forced' deliberately, because one of the conditions of such an agreement (based on what was rejected by the EU recently) would be the ability of global businesses to take sovereign governments to court if they pass legislation that affects their revenues and profits. We could be in a position where we decide a steroid used to fatten up US beef is dangerous to our health and ban it. They would then be able to take us to court because we've stopped them selling it to us.
Post actual Brexit, we will be in a weaker position for a while. Mrs May will want to demonstrate a success - for political and party reasons. We'll find that the UK signs up to a TTIP-light (just us rather than the 28 countries of todays EU) that means we'll be forced to accept food products from the USA that will be cheap (and much of our imported food is increasing in price because of GBP drops) but stuffed with chemicals that are currently not permitted in our food today.
I use the word 'forced' deliberately, because one of the conditions of such an agreement (based on what was rejected by the EU recently) would be the ability of global businesses to take sovereign governments to court if they pass legislation that affects their revenues and profits. We could be in a position where we decide a steroid used to fatten up US beef is dangerous to our health and ban it. They would then be able to take us to court because we've stopped them selling it to us.
All I ever hear from Brexiteers is "It'll be alright" and they have no description to offer as to how it will be alright. Then, when asked hard questions, they ignore them and (metaphorically) stick their fingers in their ears, make an easy joke and run away. That doesn't cut it.
We're not doomed, but it's not a joke, either. We have to defend ourselves against predictable things that might happen which would be negative rather than positive for the UK. That's not talking the country down or being unpatriotic - which is the narrative of people who use soundbites and slogans rather than truly addressing issues - it's being realistic so we can make Brexit a success for all of us.
And the Remainers have been correct on all their scare-mongering?
This is not an answer. It continues to promote a vacuum. I'm not a Remainer any more. I'm a Brit who accepts Brexit will happen and we need to be able to have answers for potential negative outcomes.
They just need to get on and do it now - I don't see it as being anyway beneficial to the City of London (or the country), but the sooner it happens then we'll all know where we stand. If I have to move to Frankfurt or Dublin, I want it to be while the children are young.
Not that anyone in Hartlepool or Clacton will either notice or care if London loses out to other EU/World cities .
Not that anyone in Hartlepool or Clacton will either notice or care if London loses out to other EU/World cities .
Dipper I have never been passionate about it. I just like to look at things fairly and not one sided like Sky/BBC.
In fact, I love Europe and would always want close ties and easy access for citizens. Never about immigration for me. I just want to run our own affairs without some grey-suited bloke from Belgium that has never been to the UK. I like to look on the bright side of things and believe in the great workers and innovators of our country.
Have a house and lived in France and I would never want our workforce to end up like them.
Otherwise a trip to the bank will take you an hour.
That is not actually correct. I have listened to many commentators/analysts that have spoken very highly of Brexit and what needs to be done. I think it's a 'remoaner' counter argument to say "It'll be alright". Truth is that we are in new waters and it will take time to settle. Both sides don't actually know what is going to happen because it's a first.
Yeah been on here read all the long winded stuff from our experts who actually know nothing. Listen to both camps on TV, read the papers and online stuff and it all boils down to 'If", because neither side actually knows.
I believe in my country and it's workforce, I believe that will have new opportunities. We have voted to leave and people should accept it and embrace the new future and be part of it.
So, a hard Brexit it is. As others have said, everybody can get on and do it now.
Two things stand out for me. The common travel area between Ireland and Britain will be maintained. Out of the single market means goods going in and coming out of Britain will be subject to tariffs which means prices going up for all of us so inflation will increase.
Two things stand out for me. The common travel area between Ireland and Britain will be maintained. Out of the single market means goods going in and coming out of Britain will be subject to tariffs which means prices going up for all of us so inflation will increase.
Somewhere some currencies sometimes probably, but if they have been doing this with the Pound the last year they have have moving their funds plugged into Brexit live.