On the contrary it is you that is making it personal, I have no interest in that.
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On the contrary it is you that is making it personal, I have no interest in that.
A recent survey indicated 54% want the government to trigger article 50 as soon as possible to take back control of our borders, laws, money and trade. Only 20% disagreed, this minority group seems to currently be over represented on this thread.
It's like knocking your head against a brick wall. Since when did 100-54 equal 20 ? Or were the rest don't knows ? How do you also know that people want all 4 of those things which you state ? There are not many on here who have concretely said 'Article 50 should not be activated` People are more concerned about the type of Brexit we are going to get - and concerned that we have government transparency on this. Your problem is that everyone who disagrees with you, in any way whatsoever, is automatically cast into one single pot - and thereafter belittled, insulted, and made fun of. Every time you are 'successfull' and someone actually bites back, then you put it down to political differences - nobody on here has a problem with your politics, but rather with your manner of arguing.
They must have been 'don't know' or don't care'.
The ICM poll asked the voters if they agreed or disagreed with the following statement: The government should trigger article 50 as soon as possible and get on with implementing the result of the referendum to take Britain out of the EU and in doing so take back control of our borders, laws, money and trade.
That's simply why I know.
I've been told by my wife to stop wasting time on here and to wash the floors. Wish to all seasons greeting while I can!!
The fear in Jersey before the referendum was that Brexit could potentially cause trade difficulties between France and here, not the regular trade for goods appearing in our shops, but the French markets we regularly have in St. Helier. Those markets are a one-way street as if there were to be Jersey markets in France, under Jersey law, any food items would have to be destroyed as Jersey produce when taken out of the island can't be returned.
Andrew Marr tells Remain voters to STOP MOANING and start being positive about Brexit
ANDREW Marr has told Remain voters to stop moaning and see Brexit as an opportunity.
By KATIE MANSFIELD
PUBLISHED: 18:18, Fri, Dec 23, 2016 | UPDATED: 18:28, Fri, Dec 23, 2016
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“Yet most of the British political class is so battered and demoralised by the Brexit decision that they cannot take what is likely at face value, and start to chart how they intend to reshape a country that has much more power over its own governance.
“This is odd; and it is a dangerous wasted opportunity. Parliamentary power, expanded and reinforced, gives new opportunities to both the left and the right to change Britain.
“Rather than being paralysed by fear, we ought to be on the lip of a great invigoration of our democracy. Yet hardly anyone seems to be talking about the new agendas that are opening up.”
Andrew Marr said Brexit will provide opportunities for Britain
The presenter says Brexit will see Britain engineer new trade deals with both Europe and the US and will open up opportunities for manufacturing.
Mr Marr argues leaving the crumbling bloc will also open up the defence sector with Britain’s armed forces, nuclear capability and wealth of cyber security intelligence all able to change.
Britain will be able to act independently when it comes to foreign policy and “forge a different policy for the Middle East” in a boost for the Foreign Office.
Remain voters held protests following the June referendum
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Mr Marr said a second referendum would rip British democracy to shreds
Mr Marr goes on to praise Brexit for the opportunity it will provide for domestic policy once Britain is free of Brussels’ shackles changing the political landscape.
He said: “Almost without notice or comment, British politics has developed its own dependency culture, losing self-confidence about important changes of direction.
“Because of ‘Brussels’, politicians and civil servants have become a bit ‘computer says no’, taking it as the first principle that we can’t do this, we can’t do that. We can’t protect industries.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/746895/schengen-zone-berlin-terror-dead-italy-nigel-farage
ANDREW Marr has told Remain voters to stop moaning and see Brexit as an opportunity.
By KATIE MANSFIELD
PUBLISHED: 18:18, Fri, Dec 23, 2016 | UPDATED: 18:28, Fri, Dec 23, 2016
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“Yet most of the British political class is so battered and demoralised by the Brexit decision that they cannot take what is likely at face value, and start to chart how they intend to reshape a country that has much more power over its own governance.
“This is odd; and it is a dangerous wasted opportunity. Parliamentary power, expanded and reinforced, gives new opportunities to both the left and the right to change Britain.
“Rather than being paralysed by fear, we ought to be on the lip of a great invigoration of our democracy. Yet hardly anyone seems to be talking about the new agendas that are opening up.”
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GETTYAndrew Marr said Brexit will provide opportunities for Britain
The presenter says Brexit will see Britain engineer new trade deals with both Europe and the US and will open up opportunities for manufacturing.
Mr Marr argues leaving the crumbling bloc will also open up the defence sector with Britain’s armed forces, nuclear capability and wealth of cyber security intelligence all able to change.
Britain will be able to act independently when it comes to foreign policy and “forge a different policy for the Middle East” in a boost for the Foreign Office.
Remain voters held protests following the June referendum
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Mr Marr said a second referendum would rip British democracy to shreds
Mr Marr goes on to praise Brexit for the opportunity it will provide for domestic policy once Britain is free of Brussels’ shackles changing the political landscape.
He said: “Almost without notice or comment, British politics has developed its own dependency culture, losing self-confidence about important changes of direction.
“Because of ‘Brussels’, politicians and civil servants have become a bit ‘computer says no’, taking it as the first principle that we can’t do this, we can’t do that. We can’t protect industries.
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/746895/schengen-zone-berlin-terror-dead-italy-nigel-farage
I for one am tired of the issue. It's like an annoying mosquito flying around the room whilst trying to get to sleep. The people voted, I voted against leaving but lost so please just get on with it and create some certainty. Uncertainty is what kills business, creates personal stress, delays the inevitable. There are a lot of high paid politicians paid to do the peoples bidding, just do it as Nike would say....
"Our access to the single market of 500 million people reduces costs for Scottish businesses by removing barriers to an export market, currently worth around £11.6 billion.
It secures jobs. The Wilson Review of Support for Scottish Exporting, concluded that over 330,000 jobs in Scotland depend on EU trade;
And it is vital to our tourism industry too, an industry that provides over 10 per cent of total jobs in Scotland.
1.5 million inbound visitors to Scotland from the EU in 2014 spent around £770 million in our country.
And EU residents made up over half of all foreign visits to Scotland.
Our outstanding Scottish Higher Education Institutions are the recipients of important EU support.
And just this week the Scotch Whisky Association – which represents an industry whose exports generate £3.95 billion for the UK balance of trade – has written to the UK Government to say that they believe it is in the national interest for the UK to remain an EU member."
Direct quote from a speech made in March this year advocating why EU membership is so important to Scotland - by Tory puppet David Mundell, the Token Tory in Scotland.
I'd like to say that I feel sorry for him now that Westminster decrees that he has to refute every word of it - but I simply can't. If he had any morals at all, he would use his position as Secretary of State for Scotland to actually stand up for Scotland's interests - but all he does is open his mouth with one eye on his own future.
It secures jobs. The Wilson Review of Support for Scottish Exporting, concluded that over 330,000 jobs in Scotland depend on EU trade;
And it is vital to our tourism industry too, an industry that provides over 10 per cent of total jobs in Scotland.
1.5 million inbound visitors to Scotland from the EU in 2014 spent around £770 million in our country.
And EU residents made up over half of all foreign visits to Scotland.
Our outstanding Scottish Higher Education Institutions are the recipients of important EU support.
And just this week the Scotch Whisky Association – which represents an industry whose exports generate £3.95 billion for the UK balance of trade – has written to the UK Government to say that they believe it is in the national interest for the UK to remain an EU member."
Direct quote from a speech made in March this year advocating why EU membership is so important to Scotland - by Tory puppet David Mundell, the Token Tory in Scotland.
I'd like to say that I feel sorry for him now that Westminster decrees that he has to refute every word of it - but I simply can't. If he had any morals at all, he would use his position as Secretary of State for Scotland to actually stand up for Scotland's interests - but all he does is open his mouth with one eye on his own future.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/38301495
"In the true blue Cotswolds, I met a Conservative Party member who despaired that, in his own words, two whole aisles in his local Tesco had been given over to Polish food. He was not a racist, nor even a xenophobe, but he was frustrated that cultural change had come to his neighbourhood without notice or consultation. Decisions made in Westminster and Brussels resonate down to the supermarket shelves of Gloucestershire and local people do not feel they have had any say in the matter."
This tripe from the BBC just about leaves me speechless. A Tory NIMBY who has apparently lived in a bubble for the last 2-3 decades? One can only wonder at what he had to say about the wine aisles in his local Tesco...
"In the true blue Cotswolds, I met a Conservative Party member who despaired that, in his own words, two whole aisles in his local Tesco had been given over to Polish food. He was not a racist, nor even a xenophobe, but he was frustrated that cultural change had come to his neighbourhood without notice or consultation. Decisions made in Westminster and Brussels resonate down to the supermarket shelves of Gloucestershire and local people do not feel they have had any say in the matter."
This tripe from the BBC just about leaves me speechless. A Tory NIMBY who has apparently lived in a bubble for the last 2-3 decades? One can only wonder at what he had to say about the wine aisles in his local Tesco...
"...in his own words..."
Yeah, two whole aisles.
And of course Tesco is trying to insidiously integrate the mono-browed elbow-patched of southwest England into Europe. Or maybe...
Tesco is trying to respond to demand and sell products. Isn't that what the "true-blue Tory" would want? 
And I agree, WTF is the BBC doing publishing this utter horseshite?
With Scotland's position as habitual losers you would have thought one more defeat would be taken in the usual timid resignation.
Not all Tories are this bad to be fair. Today one of our neighbours who lives in Kent has come back to spend Christmas and the New Year in his small cottage. He told me he has been a member of the party for twenty years, but has torn up his membership card and sent the scraps to HQ as a protest at the way the party in government is behaving. He was joined in this action by 40 of the other members from a total of 70. Come the next elections they will find it very difficult to get all of the postings out. As he is an aware political person I asked which, if any party he could support in future. He says he will never vote Tory again, the Labour Party is a lost cause with the current leader, so will probably go for the Liberals despite disagreeing with some of their policies.
Heal the nation. May will have a major problem healing her own party.
Heal the nation. May will have a major problem healing her own party.
The Liberals need all the help they can get with only 7, or is now 8 MP's. At the last election they received nearly 8% of the votes to UKIP's 12.6%
The Conservatives would have a massive majority if an election was held anytime soon.
I'm observing a truce for Christmas - if my granddad could do it in the trenches in 1916 I can do it now (though it's difficult).
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The change of voting intentions to Remain equates to a shift of some 46 percentage points based on our March poll – and a shift of 21 percentage points based on the actual referendum vote in the region.
This poll of 10,000 people shows that what happened in June was no more than a snapshot of opinion on that day. This was taken in a region that voted to leave. 86% said that they were not happy with the way that May was conducting matters and 73% didn't think we would leave the EU by April 2019. By a 52/48 margin they wanted their MPs to vote as they were elected to. 11 out of 14 stood for election on a remain platform.
No, it isn't with my German neighbours. It means I'm not arguing about politics over Christmas.