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As an African I will give my input. To Europe, AFCON is a nuisance and many (not all) of the European born players with no attachment to their countries also hold it likewise. Matip had no issue playing for Cameroon when they were in the world cup so why is it convenient for him to miss the AFCON now ...??

I'd rather these players choose to play for their birth countries as they only ever choose the African countries when it is apparent they will not make the grade in Germany, France and England. So I'd actually support his banning to prevent the nit picking of which tournaments they would want to play in.

FYI Origi would be playing for Kenya but he chose Belgium to enable him develop. Luckily we have a **** and incompetent FA and that made his decision easy

 

This has got peoples chins wagging apparently

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The reply from Lovren to Fonte

I dont think its a message we're signing him though. Think he's referring to our cup game

 

My squidge-off is the stuff of legend.

 

What does it say?

 

Fonte to Lovren after win against Everton "Epic pic bro (Lovren standing in the flare celebrating our goal) Well done"

Lovren replies "Thanks bro. Hope to see u soon u know where"

 

and if the rule is found to be spurious and in contravention of eu employment law?

before bosman max 3 foreign players rule. after it was a free for all.

the point would be if a player could prove his club career was affected by such a ban then he could and should take a case.

 

If I was given the choice to loose Matip to Cameroon or a suspension, I vote suspension. Would prefer he didn't go out there and **** him self. He seems injury prone enough as it is.

 

You're still not getting it.

It can't be in contravention of employment law as the player is still getting paid and his contract is unaffected , it's a sports bodies suspension from being able to play in X number of games.

The suspension would be no different to any other that is issued due to contravention of the sports 'club's' rules. Sports clubs rules for discip and suspension are agreed by all members, there is therefore no legal challenge in this context.

 

This.

 

What about the Bosman ruling though?

 

The bosman ruling was about a player who's contract had expired, and was restricted in his rights to ply his trade elsewhere by his club wanting a fee for his registration. It wasn't about a suspension due to contravening the sports clubs rules or disciplinary procedures, it's got no relevance whatsoever to this issue.

 

#bite

 

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Merry Christmas

 

Not sure the substance of what I just read on Twatter...
But, if advised in advance that he doesn't want to be considered for selection, then Cameron FA have no grounds for requesting a sanction..
Seems to be make sense, but not sure the validity of that report, but I'd like for that to be true!

 

Its a matter of employment though. Not an old boys club. Hes paid to play so if prevented from doing so he misses out on bonuses pitentially. Ergo.. worth testing in court

 

My answer woukd be

A) my understanding is its a long term falling out thats gone on longer than his lfc career not a sudden the acn is in the way thing.

B) if a player is born in belgium. As origi was in you example and grows up there all his life imo its not even a decision. All his development was done by belgium. In his case his father was a kenyan footballer.

C) sadly its not a case of birth country v adopted country is it? Its which country give them most return in sponsors or whatever. Enland have seen the same thing as has scotland. Players deciding to go to ireland or ales etc etc if they aint good enough and players declare for england cos it would boost their career.

D) the acn is its own worst enemy. Its timing is stupid in the extreme as not all countries in afrca are boiling in june are they? Its the only major tournament out of sequence nearly globally.dont they get that itd be wider watched if it were not clashing with proper club football.

 

Given he's not played in any qualifiers think would have good grounds to appeal any kind of suspension they may want to put on him.

 

He's made himself unavailable for selection for a good while.. its not a sudden change of heart..
Senegal would have grounds to appeal if Mane didn't turn up all of a sudden given he's played for them whenever he's been able to do so over the last few years!

 

Makes perfect sense to me anyway.

 

Firstly FFS

Secondly FFS

No it isn't mate, as it would be a suspension handed out under the rules of the governing body, if he was found to be transgressing the rules of the governing body of the sport. It's a sports club, with sports club rules, that all who operate within it are bound by, simple as that.

You could apply the same logic you've tried to argue there, to any ban handed out for whatever reason within the game. There is no legal recourse outside of the sport on an issue of this nature.

It's likely to be moot anyway, as I doubt Cameroon will ask FIFA to act.