Match Day Thread Manchester City vs. Arsenal 2016/17 Official Match Thread

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BrunelGooner said:
You don't need to give up on them per se, but don't expect them to do anything right when we're meant to deliver because we rarely ever do it.

As far as I'm concerned, it's another battle for 4th, probably getting knocked out of the CL Last 16 and we could possibly go on a decent FA Cup run. I will still support them obviously, but I will also dismiss any talk of the title because I just don't think we're good enough to win it, frankly. I thought that at the start of the season but now it's clear as day we haven't got the guts for the challenge.
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It's been a bad week for sure. And if we end up at the end of the season in 3rd/4th people will say 'Oh I told you so'. But there's still a lot to play for this season. But we need to shape up fast, the second half of this game was a very worrying sign.
 
Not making excuses for our ****e performance in the 2nd half, but I thought both City goals were contentious. The first was offside and the second could have been called offside with Silva interfering with play.
 
BrunelGooner said:
You don't need to give up on them per se, but don't expect them to do anything right when we're meant to deliver because we rarely ever do it.

As far as I'm concerned, it's another battle for 4th, probably getting knocked out of the CL Last 16 and we could possibly go on a decent FA Cup run. I will still support them obviously, but I will also dismiss any talk of the title because I just don't think we're good enough to win it, frankly. I thought that at the start of the season anyway but now it's clear as day we haven't got the guts for the challenge.
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Yeah, but you've only been 'supporting' The Arsenal for about 10 years.
 
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More importantly than the loss in itself is the repeating pattern of being complacent,less focused,lethargic when we are comfortable in a match.It seems to be more and more an issue of culture and habit,had this squad with a perfect blend of youth and experience,performers and stars that had stayed together and grown for 3.5 years at the time of writing whilst winning two fa cups and being runners had been managed by one of Conte,Klopp,Simione,Pep or Allegiri we would have been far far better off.

It would be pointless to have suffered the banter years if we dnt make use of chances coming our way,we have bottled the title all of the last three years and should have won it last year..well its our main man's make or break season,i hope so...if he is a champion of either europe or england or is a runner up and semisfinalist along with the fa cup,he can get another contract...or we should move on even if we do not get a simione or allegiri,just for the sake of freshness.




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PISKIE said:
Not making excuses for our ****e performance in the 2nd half, but I thought both City goals were contentious. The first was offside and the second could have been called offside with Silva interfering with play.
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I think the first was just onside, the second one, David Silva for me was impeding Petr Cech's line of sight.

But the reason im not more upset about those goals, is because we genuinely did not play well; we did not remotely look like scoring second half, and the only consistency we had was that we gave the ball away.
 
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ArtisanWenger said:
More importantly than the loss in itself is the repeating pattern of being complacent,less focused,lethargic when we are comfortable in a match.It seems to be more and more an issue of culture and habit,had this squad with a perfect blend of youth and experience,performers and stars that had stayed together and grown for 3.5 years at the time of writing whilst winning two fa cups and being runners had been managed by one of Conte,Klopp,Simione,Pep or Allegiri we would have been far far better off.

It would be pointless to have suffered the banter years if we dnt make use of chances coming our way,we have bottled the title all of the last three years and should have won it last year..well its our main man's make or break season,i hope so...if he is a champion of either europe or england or is a runner up and semisfinalist along with the fa cup,he can get another contract...or we should move on even if we do not get a simione or allegiri,just for the sake of freshness.




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Why is this season our main man's make or break season instead of any of the last five??
 
cini65 said:
You like accusing posters on here of being fairweather fans don't you? Do you think you're a 'better' fan than others?
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Considering 10 years back I was about 11 years old, I'm not exactly sure what point he's trying to prove with that post. If he was trying to take a dig at me by implying I'm a 'fairweather fan', it was a bizarre attempt.
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again, it doesn't matter what arsene Wenger does this season, even if he wins the treble, he has to go; he cannot stay here forever, and sooner or later there needs to be a change.

He has made far too many mistakes the last 5 years or so, for me. We HAVE to start thinking about the future, it's just time.
 
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white_gunner said:
I think the first was just onside, the second one, David Silva for me was impeding Petr Cech's line of sight.

But the reason im not more upset about those goals, is because we genuinely did not play well; we did not remotely look like scoring second half, and the only consistency we had was that we gave the ball away.
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Completely agree. We did nothing to deserve anything out of that game given our 2nd half performance. But the rules of the game should have ruled both of those goals out for offside.

Gary Neville made a dumb comment about that first city goal. Saying that given how poor we were in the 2nd half, it probably shouldn't have been given for offside. What the **** has that got to do with it ? It's either offside or not. And it was.
 
PISKIE said:
Completely agree. We did nothing to deserve anything out of that game given our 2nd half performance. But the rules of the game should have ruled both of those goals out for offside.

Gary Neville made a dumb comment about that first city goal. Saying that given how poor we were in the 2nd half, it probably shouldn't have been given for offside. What the **** has that got to do with it ? It's either offside or not. And it was.
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I don't think it was, but either way we were very poor.
 
We started off well and then fell off a cliff in the second. This is not title challenging form and is VERY worrying considering we've got near full strength and are on form. We definitely have a mental issue that unless Wenger can miraculously cure, will end up for a top 4 battle again.

Very disappointing.
 
Blimey , you think the Titanic hit an iceberg . Where's your Dunkirk spirit , keep your pecker up , worse
things can happen at sea . In a spirit of brotherhood my best wishes my old China's .

Chin up
Sid
 
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PISKIE said:
Completely agree. We did nothing to deserve anything out of that game given our 2nd half performance. But the rules of the game should have ruled both of those goals out for offside.

Gary Neville made a dumb comment about that first city goal. Saying that given how poor we were in the 2nd half, it probably shouldn't have been given for offside. What the **** has that got to do with it ? It's either offside or not. And it was.
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Wenger has come out with 3 separate excuses for our loss and should get a reprimand for his criticism of the referees. He doesn't get paid to make excuses but make changes to the team that matter so we win. I'm getting frankly fed up of them.
 
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BrunelGooner said:
You clearly have a chip on your shoulder for some reason or other. Go see a therapist, I've heard it helps. Might help you with your longstanding inferiority complex <ok> May also help you stop being an arrogant **** as well.
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As an outsider it does seem a bit of an inferiority complex. It's OK for Magic to post player ratings of -1 after one poor performance by Ozil (see his eearlier post), but if you criticise the performance you and @cini65 are fairweather fans. Go figure <doh>
 
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lazarus20000 said:
Wenger has come out with 3 separate excuses for our loss and should get a reprimand for his criticism of the referees. He doesn't get paid to make excuses but make changes to the team that matter so we win. I'm getting frankly fed up of them.
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I think he had a point about the offsides, but overall we were ****e and deserved to lose.

Anway, as I said earlier in the thread. It's been a bad week, but we shouldn't write this season off on the back of two games.
 
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