Which player has disappointed most this season?

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I appreciate the points you make and ideally we'd be more positive but I think people are just sick of it. As a fanbase we've put up with an awful lot and what is left of the camel's back is quickly being broken.

At Rotherham before the game people were very vocally positive towards the team. Within 30 seconds we could have been a goal down but the crowd was good and even buoyant during a brief spell of being in their half.

We are like a wife who has been knocked about by her husband for years but always tried to focus on the time they were young and happy together. Eventually we'll snap and kill him with the iron.

I totally agree with what you are saying especially in the first paragraph and feel sick of the whole thing for a couple of years but we have a few solutions we can go and support another team, nah or we can embrace it and TRY to be positive and offer support or just be negative about the whole situation, of course, we can just switch off and not bother watching football at all, which I must admit has been kind of my way as I've been forced by personal circumstances a new baby, no job kind of takes your attention away. One thing I know in life negativity gets you nowhere and just leads to depression for you and the people around you, so its not an option in my book.
 
Chery, without a doubt. Had high ambitions for him. Now he just runs around the field and seems to have absolutely no direction or plan. He also seems more interest in looking good than making sacrifices for team.
 
I appreciate the points you make and ideally we'd be more positive but I think people are just sick of it. As a fanbase we've put up with an awful lot and what is left of the camel's back is quickly being broken.

At Rotherham before the game people were very vocally positive towards the team. Within 30 seconds we could have been a goal down but the crowd was good and even buoyant during a brief spell of being in their half.

We are like a wife who has been knocked about by her husband for years but always tried to focus on the time they were young and happy together. Eventually we'll snap and kill him with the iron.

Another contender for post of the season.
 
I totally agree with what you are saying especially in the first paragraph and feel sick of the whole thing for a couple of years but we have a few solutions we can go and support another team, nah or we can embrace it and TRY to be positive and offer support or just be negative about the whole situation, of course, we can just switch off and not bother watching football at all, which I must admit has been kind of my way as I've been forced by personal circumstances a new baby, no job kind of takes your attention away. One thing I know in life negativity gets you nowhere and just leads to depression for you and the people around you, so its not an option in my book.

When Mackie is back I'll be clapping like a madman through our turgid 1-0 defeats.
 
Who am I to have an opinion?
This is my first post in God only knows when, got fed up with the bickering.
Don't get to the matches, living abroad doesn't help!
Lost a bit of faith and rarely even see highlights.

But I do come on here and read the comments, read the press reports, always look for the result and follow from a far albeit quietly as I love our little team.

So what's the point, why am I saying all this on this thread?

The point is that my biggest disappointment is player number 12 the fans.
I know it's hard for you guys paying good money and watching crap footy week in week out and yes you are entitled to your opinion but the one thing I keep hearing on here is how quite the fans are how much they are moaning people booing the players the lack of atmosphere, Dave almost lumped a guy behind him for being such a fouled mouth idiot and there appears to be an abundance of loud mouth idiots in the ground I've seen several myself.

I just feel at the moment with such negativity that it will spiral out of control and relegation will become a self-fulfilling prophecy and you can see the effect it's already having on the players, are they up to the task? Negative comments don't help, too many people tell us what they don't like but hardly any have a positive comment on what can be done to solve the problem and if they do quite often it's totally unrealistic.

The league doesn't lie we deserve where we are at the moment and will probably be mid-table in the Championship for a few more seasons, this season we were never going to be play-off candidates never mind promotion and therefore QPR need our patience because there is no such thing as a quick fix as we are all to aware what's happened over the past few seasons.

Ollieism,
Ollie has just arrived in Nepal and is miles away from Everest never mind base camp; his baggage has been supplied by stranger and all his climbing gear has been supplied by several strangers some of them not exactly trustworthy, yet he is expected to get to the top of Everest on his own without his own gear and dragging 30 odd Sherpa's, several donkeys and provisions behind him. He has only one chance and that is if all the people from all the surrounding villages get together and blow in the same direction at the same time, it's called support!
So what, apart from patience, are your positive comments?

I agree about the atmosphere in the ground, I don't go often and don't have location as an excuse, mainly because the pre match pint aside it hasn't been fun for ages, the football has been beyond dire, but it isn't helped by the underlying feeling of anger and despair at the ground a lot of the time. Perfectly understandable but not the way I want to spend my Saturday afternoon (or Sunday morning or Thursday evening whatever) But this forum and others are exactly the right place for people to moan on about it. Like you I exercise my judgement and don't read a lot of it, but it may be cathartic in some sense, and unless the players are daft enough to read things like this it won't do them any harm. I may be reading your post wrongly, but I don't think it's reasonable to ask fans not to have negative feelings and to express them when they are confronted by rubbish for years on end.
 
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So what, apart from patience, are your positive comments?

I agree about the atmosphere in the ground, I don't go often and don't have location as an excuse, mainly because the pre match pint aside it hasn't been fun for ages, the football has been beyond dire, but it isn't helped by the underlying feeling of anger and despair at the ground a lot of the time. Perfectly understandable but not the way I want to spend my Saturday afternoon (or Sunday morning or Thursday evening whatever) But this forum and others are exactly the right place for people to moan on about it. Like you I exercise my judgement and don't read a lot of it, but it may be cathartic in some sense, and unless the players are daft enough to read things like this it won't do them any harm. I may be reading your post wrongly, but I don't think it's reasonable to ask fans not to have negative feelings and to express them when they are confronted by rubbish for years on end.

You took your time LOL :emoticon-0136-giggl:emoticon-0136-giggl
 
So what, apart from patience, are your positive comments?

I agree about the atmosphere in the ground, I don't go often and don't have location as an excuse, mainly because the pre match pint aside it hasn't been fun for ages, the football has been beyond dire, but it isn't helped by the underlying feeling of anger and despair at the ground a lot of the time. Perfectly understandable but not the way I want to spend my Saturday afternoon (or Sunday morning or Thursday evening whatever) But this forum and others are exactly the right place for people to moan on about it. Like you I exercise my judgement and don't read a lot of it, but it may be cathartic in some sense, and unless the players are daft enough to read things like this it won't do them any harm. I may be reading your post wrongly, but I don't think it's reasonable to ask fans not to have negative feelings and to express them when they are confronted by rubbish for years on end.

This is exactly what I am worried about and explains the reason why attendances have fallen off so considerably. Fans are being turned off and are turning away in their droves. The club is in a downward spiral.
 
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I think Conor Washington has been the biggest disappointment. He's had a good run of games now and hasn't impressed. He's like Jamie Mackie without the goals. I seriously think he has Impostor Syndrome.
 
Who am I to have an opinion?
This is my first post in God only knows when, got fed up with the bickering.
Don't get to the matches, living abroad doesn't help!
Lost a bit of faith and rarely even see highlights.

But I do come on here and read the comments, read the press reports, always look for the result and follow from a far albeit quietly as I love our little team.

So what's the point, why am I saying all this on this thread?

The point is that my biggest disappointment is player number 12 the fans.
I know it's hard for you guys paying good money and watching crap footy week in week out and yes you are entitled to your opinion but the one thing I keep hearing on here is how quite the fans are how much they are moaning people booing the players the lack of atmosphere, Dave almost lumped a guy behind him for being such a fouled mouth idiot and there appears to be an abundance of loud mouth idiots in the ground I've seen several myself.

I just feel at the moment with such negativity that it will spiral out of control and relegation will become a self-fulfilling prophecy and you can see the effect it's already having on the players, are they up to the task? Negative comments don't help, too many people tell us what they don't like but hardly any have a positive comment on what can be done to solve the problem and if they do quite often it's totally unrealistic.

The league doesn't lie we deserve where we are at the moment and will probably be mid-table in the Championship for a few more seasons, this season we were never going to be play-off candidates never mind promotion and therefore QPR need our patience because there is no such thing as a quick fix as we are all to aware what's happened over the past few seasons.

Ollieism,
Ollie has just arrived in Nepal and is miles away from Everest never mind base camp; his baggage has been supplied by stranger and all his climbing gear has been supplied by several strangers some of them not exactly trustworthy, yet he is expected to get to the top of Everest on his own without his own gear and dragging 30 odd Sherpa's, several donkeys and provisions behind him. He has only one chance and that is if all the people from all the surrounding villages get together and blow in the same direction at the same time, it's called support!
I'm with you until your last 2 paragraphs. The support is the biggest dissapointment for me too. I've gotten really bored with the negativity and feel we are a spoilt bunch. 2 promotions, 2 relegations, 3 seasons in the PL, 3 in the Championship all in the last 6 seasons if I remember right. Roller Coaster up and downs, great players, exciting times. But now this season we seemed while we had Jimmy anyway, to be ticking over in mid-table, getting along with some hopes of improvement, consolidating with lower league players as most called for, but suddenly surprise, everyone is bored.

So bored and negative Jimmy is fired and we get a clown in his place. Funny yes, good bloke probably, but I had zero confidence in him before he was appointed, and he'a not done anything yet to change that. So sorry I want him out, I want investment in a proven Manager who is still Managing and the players we need to get us promoted again quick. Do a Watford Tony, change the Manager every 4 or 5 games if necessary till we get one that wins a few in a row, scores goals and excites. And gets us where we should be but Watford already are.
 
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I'm with you until your last 2 paragraphs. The support is the biggest dissapointment for me too. I've gotten really bored with the negativity and feel we are a spoilt bunch. 2 promotions, 2 relegations, 3 seasons in the PL, 3 in the Championship all in the last 6 seasons if I remember right. Roller Coaster up and downs, great players, exciting times. But now this season we seemed while we had Jimmy anyway, to be ticking over in mid-table, getting along with some hopes of improvement, consolidating with lower league players as most called for, but suddenly surprise, everyone is bored.

So bored and negative Jimmy is fired and we get a clown in his place. Funny yes, good bloke probably, but I had zero confidence in him before he was appointed, and he'a not done anything yet to change that. So sorry I want him out, I want investment in a proven Manager who is still Managing and the players we need to get us promoted again quick. Do a Watford Tony, change the Manager every 4 or 5 games if necessary till we get one that wins a few in a row, scores goals and excites. And gets us where we should be but Watford already are.

Hi Oslo,
We will have to disagree on the manager point you are right in as much that it worked out eventually for Watford however, they used Udinese as a feeder club for loan players something about a loophole if I remember correctly and if were does the loophole still exist? We are not in that position and to be honest that approach would drive me bonkers and I probably would lose interest before they got it right, just not for me.
 
For a fan to call Holloway a clown after what he's done for our club is a disgrace in my book. He wouldn't have been my first choice for the new manager I'll admit, but he's dragged our club through darker times than this, so have some respect.
 
For a fan to call Holloway a clown after what he's done for our club is a disgrace in my book. He wouldn't have been my first choice for the new manager I'll admit, but he's dragged our club through darker times than this, so have some respect.

That's all true but he is still a bit of a clown.
 
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The crowd feed directly off of what is displayed on the pitch which has been pretty awful off and on for more than half a decade. So it is certainly understandable the atmosphere at LR is unsettled and lurches from one extreme to another at the drop of a hat. Society in general has no patience anymore, with advances in technology we pretty much have everything we want at the click of a mouse whether it's downloading a new album or next day deliveries we no longer have to wait. That instant gratification has certainly manifested itself in football crowds who want instant success but don't have the patience to wait especially as they know with the modern football chairman they can force his hand. I think every club has these moments when performances slip and the crowd is no longer on side, problem is other teams usually find a way out of it, think Villa in recent times. Maybe we don't quite get to the levels of toxicity that some crowds do but we haven't had a team who have given us a consistent run of performance and effort since 2011/12 so the crowd is almost permanently edgy. Only a good run of form is going to help but due to the years of dross we've had we could win 10 on the bounce but it would only take back to back defeats for the atmosphere to change again. I suspect this is just going to be way it is now which is a shame, I dread to think what a QPR crowd will be like in 10, 20, 30 years time when the young boo boys are the older heads in the crowd.