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Zidane and assistant banned for 3 months

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by moreinjuredthanowen, Oct 27, 2014.

  1. Not enough time <whistle>
     
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  2. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    Do you have to respect the straight referees? Or only the bent ones?
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

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    koala tea derail there lads... this thread was well past running its course....
     
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    So in Spain, to at least be a head coach like Zidane is, even at the youth level, you must have the proper license. To be in the Academy scheme there ( u13-18) you must have the B qualification minimum. No license, no work, no matter who you are and that is holding true even at the highest level.

    The other thing that is annoying is the fast track. We used to have it here ( you played college, skip to C, you played pro, skip to B, etc) but it is still important to go through some of the C and B type courses as it deals with youths, the 7x7, 9x9 models, principals of the game, methodologies, how to set up a training session, what happens when numbers are not correct, adjust on the fly, dealing with personalities, dealing with parents, the four pillars of the game: Mental, Technical, Tactical, Psycological, etc.

    Someone mentioned the cost.... it is very expensive in the US and in the UK but for Spain and Germany, to get the A license or even Pro, is just barely touching a grand, very very affordable. I will probably learn Spanish to do that course as it would save me so much money!!!!

    I have the A here so next up is the UEFA stuff but again, time and money are constraints and the length of those programs, I would have to work something out.
     
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    See, I knew you'd put up a quality post. I agree with you, it is good that the rules apply 'no matter who you are' - well in terms of coaching qualifications at least <whistle>
     
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    Lol, I have been there before. I was able to skip up but decided to start with the D and work up. Meet new people, network, give myself some time to improve instead of just jumping in straight away. Even in Keane's book the second half, he mentions how he thought the B was harder than the A or Pro license due to having to deal with smaller numbers, a more academy approach, and not just the 11x11 you are always used to. Being comfortable in the uncomfortable is part of it.
     
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  8. Out of interest, in what situation would you find yourself dealing with 121 students...? <whistle>
     
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    When you qualified did anybody fail? I ask because I did table course and referee course for basketball and nobody failed, despite there being some awful referees they just passed everyone!
     
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    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    why did you choose this option?

    so basically if you paid the fee you got a license.
     
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  11. Sounds like when you do a manual handling, food hygiene or fire warden course; minimum number of hours required and everyone passes. Hardly separates the men from the boys so to speak does it <laugh>
     
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    `you are my hero...... if england had more bluff's and less long ball. big kid playing muppets we'd have better fottballers.
     
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    Yes <ok> it was an intensive course with loads of practical but you could see some weren't up to it, only positive for those not really up to what I called 'standard' is at least some teams got to play competitive games in a league because there was a 'qualified' ref to take the game.

    Not sure what you mean 'why did I choose that option?'
     
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    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    learn to be a ref for basketball (not a very British thing to do), did you use to play the game when younger and wanted to keep doing the sport in some capacity, or just something dif to learn type thing. ie hey look at my cv <diva>
     
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    I played basketball when younger and both my lads got into it too, plus their school was one of the best in the country for basketball, We went all over the country watching them and when the local league advertised a refs course and a table course [that's the scoring/timekeeping qualification] we all went along and got qualified. My eldest still gets calls mostly from Liverpool uni to ref games, refs are in quite short supply which is probably why they passed everyone who turned up. The lads were only in their teens when they qualified and used to get £10 a game for table, refs fees varied but could get as much as £15 which at the time was a little bit of pocket money for them. I never took a fee, thought the little clubs needed it more than me.
     
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    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    my brother in law loves the sport, spurs fan as well , no hope for the fecka <laugh>

    couldn't get into the sport, not my thing, i had football, tennis and cricket was the main ones at the school i went to, they had basketball but no one really cared for it.

    just curios that was all, or nosy fecka as most would put it lol, i used to love playing pool and snooker but not sure i would want to take up the ref side of it, i am just inquisitive sod lol, did you have the hoop in the back garden then i take it like they have in american films?
     
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    Oh yes! Starting around the C license you can certainly fail. I have also seen some pass though that would never have passed if they weren't friends with the instructors. That is still around unfortunately. Have met some great people on the courses though.
     
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    My brother in law is a spurs fan too. He's from Essex - is that spurs territory, I don't know?

    Yes we have a basketball hoop on the side of the house <ok> It's a fantastic sport, fast, skilful, physical and played indoors, no mud involved <laugh>
     
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    I think sport's one of the things that unites people who you would never put together otherwise - a bit like us on here, it's probably the only thing we've got in common <laugh>
     
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    Tis true this.

    Although, we talk about the badges, licenses, certifications, etc....... but most on here know how serious coaching is with American football and basketball over here. Tons of tactics, plays, management, etc. Very similar ideas. No license or badge course what so ever, not a one. Basically everything from experience and trial and error, yet the coaching side is vastly important. Very strange how it is the other way around yet somehow still works. You do have a lot of people fall flat though on the flip side of that.
     
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