Who would you Kill?

Don't get me wrong, I am no fan of Vettel but by Hamilton not accelerating did he not deliberately cause Vettel to crash into him?

 

If he were responsible for that initial bump (I don't know if he was or not) that wouldn't be a deliberate collision but rather an error in judgement, racing incident.

The second incident was deliberate out of anger from Vettel. That's what shouldn't be allowed. A mistake on track is one thing. A deliberate collision is something else entirely.

 

No, that's not what we're talking about. After that initial collision (and how would Hamilton know that his own rear wing wouldn't have been damaged?), Vettel then drew alongside Hamilton and, blatantly, drove into him. Staggeringly dangerous.

 

Someone else won't be in a Ferrari (if it's not a Ferrari again)

 

No

he didn't 'not accelerate' neither did he deliberately slow down

his pace, line, positioning was consistent ney exactly the same as the previous laps under safety

Vettel is just a useless twat

 

The first one, from Hamilton's point of view, if let's say he did slow down, which he didn't, wouldn't have happened as like you say he would risk getting his back end smashed so wing, diffuser damage etc, just for the sake of what, making him and Vettel both have to pit for damage ? That would be senseless and is why it didn't happen.

Maybe if it was for the world champ and Hamilton needed to try and take him out with no consequences for himself and actually the title win a la Schumacher, but this was the 8th race of the season so ... nope

What did happen was Vettel got it wrong on the rear end shunt ... forgivable, stupid but forgivable

Then he drove the **** into him because he couldn't control his temper and tried to make Hamilton either incur big damage or crash out which is just ****ing reckless, irresponsible for another driver's safety and therefore totally unforgivable

 

look.... the stewards took action

vettel lost his mind. he was idiotic as he could have got hamilton done for what he did if he'd got on the radio and whined like a little girl

after all thats what hamilton does isn't it... whine like a little girl?

Hamilton is a mealy mouthed little cocksucker hes making the very most he can out of it ably assisted by his british press cronies.

Its like rosberg last year.... the problem is it can just as easy back fire on him cos mos tof the tracks don't have a british ex driver as a steward and politics can come into it

We all know hamilton chose the absolute tightest unsighted corner on the track possible to basically coast and cause chaos behind him. he knew what he was at.

Vettel had no clue what the **** he was at the loon.... its the whinyness of it now that gets me cos this should set up the best most vitriolic fight in f1 in 20/30 years.

Us fans dont need it ruined by a manadrin in the back office deciding its bad.

 

Again ...

Stewards examined data from Hamilton's car and concluded he had done nothing wrong - he had merely not accelerated out of the corner as he prepared the restart, as is his right.

Ricciardo said: "Look, whether Lewis slowed down or not, he has every right to dictate the pace. He's the leader, and it was too early for him to accelerate.

"You're not going to make the restart out of Turn 15. Seb was probably just a little bit over-excited."

 

I think you'll find

Those stewards had to do something and ignored the first incident and then gave what they thought would end the situation to vettel. (10 seconds stop/go) not black flag

If nothing at all occurred i can assure you those same stewards would prob have dinged hamilton with 5 seconds after race had vettel not lost his mind

You cannot trust stewards.. they say whatever the **** they like when the like and they are never the same stewards twice in a row.

Its a pity theres not many "neutral" voices out there. you might as well quote hailton as ricciardo as ricciardo has things to gain too.

you can clearly see hamilton is coasting and continues to coast.

in any event the same whinge came when hamilton had the temerity to demand bottas slow down to hold up vettel... assuming that he had that control.

At least mercedes had the good grace to say no to him

and toto wollf called it a rivalry right after in his gloves are off comments. the line has prob now changed of course

 

Oh you can assure us, can you? Based on what? Hamilton has every right to pick from whence he accelerates, as the rules clearly state regarding the safety car. One thing you CAN be assured of - if Vettel had been driving anything but a Ferrari he'd have been black-flagged.

 

on the fact the are all political animals

you just choose to believe there's no offence when anyone viewing the camera footage and not actually caring for one or other can see hamilton utterly coasted form the corner seeking to force his rival to brake so he could then accelerate away.

in case nobody noticed typically every advantage is with the driver in front of a safety car.. hamilton was under no pressure to do what he did but while he was whining on at whiting about the safety car going too slow he clearly felt under pressure and came up with a scheme.

why only a couple laps into the first safety car merc had to remind the guy of 10 safety car lengths so he didn't completely rip the piss

 

Even if you're right (and you're not), you just cannot lose it as Vettel did and draw alongside someone, then swerve into them. It's not ****ing stock-car racing.

And do it he did, and the stewards knew it - why else did they give him ten seconds? His own incompetence (no matter what Hamilton did - you rear end some granny because she slowed down for an ambulance and you'd get six points) led to the first shunt, but the the second was just a fit of temper, no matter what you say, and that's something you just can't do in F1 - unless you're Ferrari, of course.

 

one does not excuse the other you are right.

I am merely commenting that the stewards made up the least solution possible in thier minds to get out of the situation.

Bascially vettel was a loon. i did say that... like... i'm just pointing out hamilton is going for holier than thou and its hilarious.

 

This is so ****ing boring, it's not even worth buying popcorn for

 

Almost as bad as cricket...

 

Yeah, better to stick to rounders, a MAN'S. game...

 

I tend to not enjoy any sport that involves a man holding wood or a stick...

... Unless it's on ice.



Cricket on ice... That might be entertaining.