Off Topic Well, this is it.......

My point is that it wasn't discussed and so people assumed best of both worlds would apply when clearly impossible. I'm not saying that you wouldn't change your mind Banksy. But probably enough to change the outcome of a vote

 

I was unsure before the referendum, and after discussing and taking onboard points I was going to vote leave, but I was at Glastonbury at the time and ballsed up my postal vote.

For what it's worth, if there was a referendum tomorrow, I'd be voting to leave but with even more certainty than before.

 

The way I feel, I am 100% behind the UK.

As I said before, I voted remain - simply because I didn't know what leave looks like and I still don't. However, leaving we are and I want what is best for us.
I suppose like a soldier who doesn't agree with the war he is sent to fight - or a player who doesn't like the formation and tactic he is being asked to play - I will always support my team, my city and my country and now that we are Brexiting I want the best deal we can possibly get - but it must include Gibraltar or there can be no deal.
Where were the EUs 'automatic support for one of their own' in the Falklands war?

 

Its the EU that brought Gibraltar in to the argument.. I cant believe our media keeps falling for this ****.

Leave the EU and you cant keep Gibraltar.. what a crock of ****!

 

I think what the Gibraltar thing means is that the UK (without Gibraltar) can broker a deal on its own, but Gib itself will only be party to the same deal if Spain agrees.
Basically, the UK might be able to negotiate access to the single market, but for Gib to have the same access they will probably have to accept joint sovereignty (the likely condition from Spain) or be subjected to a 'hard' Brexit, with blocked flights and closed borders.

 

Yes REALLY JGF, your figures are out of date, I still work in the print industry. The last volume mill producing recycled papers in Kent shut several years ago. No one uses paper from UK mills in seriously large volumes, the UK mills are generally making specialist papers. I totally agree we need to recycle, no issue with that. However most paper used in the UK is from an FSC source where at least one tree is planted for every one cut down and the chain of custody can be traced back from the reel or sheet in the print factory to the source. Also when using a FSC accredited paper you can be confident it is coming from a sustainable source and not causing deforestation.

 

will reply in good time as busy at the moment, but from no one to uses to the above, in seriously large volumes is that referring recycled or paper / board to print finishing?