Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal

I think MOTD2 conclusively demonstrated that the own goal was offside. The Arsenal players in an offside position without doubt affected play as Wimmer could not possibly have known whether they were on or off, just that they were behind him and therefore had to go for the ball. And they were off because had the ball reached them they would have been called offside. They were therefore impeding him. It's this stupid rule that adds doubt and subjectivity to the decision. One ref will give it one way and another will give the same situation differently. It is increasing inconsistency not reducing it.

 

Spot on Spud

He gets on my ****ing nerves lately.

 

Unfortunately I agree with Howard Webb on this one. The current words in the Law simply don't cover the situation that occurred in the match.
I think the Law needs to be changed to be more like it used to be: essentially you are only deemed to be not 'interfering with play' if you clearly retreat without affecting the play or other players. Chelsea's first two goals on Saturday evening would probably have been ruled out if that was the rule.

 

I domt get the fuss. The arsenal players didnt do anything so werent offside.

If wimmer thought they were in offside posititons he shouldnt have headed it.

It was his call.

 

One for the Stattos...

 

How the **** does any professional team end up with a 65% pass percentage, let alone a side like Arsenal? That's awful.
They bloody won, too.

 

Just .

 

So you would be quite happy for him to leave it even if the assistant then got it wrong and didn't flag for the offside if Sanchez scores from the resulting free header.

Personally I think the goal is correctly given by the letter of the law, but whether the law is correct is a whole new debate

 

The law's fine, but the current interpretation is far too vague and makes it very difficult for the officials.
Ian Wright, Harry Redknapp and Rio Ferdinand all called it offside yesterday, yet there's an argument that it's not.
If the professionals don't agree with the officials, then it's not doing what it's supposed to, in my opinion.

 

But players are supposed to play to the whistle. Linesmen are supposed to be the best judge of offsides and they still get it wrong so how's a player to know?

They both made runs in behind Wimmer. Koscielny challenged for the ball whilst Sanchez was lurking behind, preventing Wimmer from flicking it on behind him.

 

Wenger's mouthing off about how Wanyama should've been sent off.

Anything but mention how Koscielny, Coquelin and Walcott all deserved more than the solitary yellow card they received between the three of them, eh?

 

Wenger's post-match interview was an embarrassment, even by his standards.
The Arsenal twitter cut out all the crap and this was the result:

 

SoS got it spot on. That never would've happened if Wimmer had judged the flight of the ball and positoned his footing correctly. Jumping off balance towards the goal is a recipe for disaster and 8 times out of 10 will result in an own goal if the ball comes in at the right angle. He was too slow off the mark when Ozil played it in and for some reason had already angled his body towards Hugo instead of towards the ball.

Not saying it wasn't offside, just that it was preventable even without the presence of Sanchez in an off position.

 

I think I've worked out why Eriksen's been so off form this season...

 

It seems that the only people who thought that goal should be given onside is Webb and Whinger, well Webb is going to stick up for his old mates isn`t he and Whinger is just, well, Whinger. Every other pundit I have seen or heard all said it should have been given offside. I also thought Walnut`s diving and over reacting was disgusting and at one point he appeared to try and goad JV into something stupid.

 

I think that if he knew they would become offside if they touched it, he shouldve left it, yes.

If he didnt know, then it's no issue anyway.

 

He told him to hit him.
https://gyazo.com/6a9a7cc5bf8b019b5e5d8bb7408208dd
"Go on, hit me." Resorted to that because nobody bought the Wanyama 'elbow'.

 

I reckon thats worthy of a retrospective charge of bringing the game into disrepute

I also think that there were a few thousand there who would have happily taken him up on his offer

 

I didnt see anyone challenging tbh NK ?

Just saw 2 players making a run.

To me Wimmer's heading stopped them interfering with play. Could the linesman say that he definitely wouldnt have headed it if those two players werent there ?

Tbh, I need to see the clip again tho.

 

https://my.mixtape.moe/snpreq.mp4