Thick as mince

Fans of other EFL clubs should quit their constant moaning about us 'buying the league' etc....

We made a profit on player trading ffs yet these thick muppets don't understand basic maths.

Thick as mince some of them.

 

Have to say I think we have bought the league. The whole profit on players thing is massively misleading when switching between leagues. If you gave any manager 57m to spend in a championship team - I reckon they would all be confident. The fact we paid for this by selling two players for ridiculous fees (sissoko ) is neither here nor there.

The point is though it's just jealousy. If they had assets which were gonna bring in massive money, parachute payments etc, and this meant their club could spend 57m then they'd want their club to do it. No point whinging about someone else doing what you'd like to. Human nature though.

 

Villa spent a lot and they are ****e

 

The jealousy eminating from the rest of the league is quite frankly hilarious. Let us finish off our tour (hope that doesn't come back to bite me on the arse) of the godforsaken league and be done with it.

 

The evidence of Roberto Di Mateo and Steve Bruce at Villa proves you wrong! Anyone can get a windfall, but it's about building a team as well, Villa just made a load of obvious big money signings from the championship that clearly haven't gelled.

At the end of the day, spending is big in the Championship now as well - look at Wolves, they're down the bottom, but they've just spent £13m on Helder Costa,

And it's hardly been a waltz for us anyway, it's been a tough season so far.

 

You've spent well, even if you don't have a squad blessed with PL quality, it makes no odds.

The objective was to be in that league for one season, and the players you've bought are getting the job done.

Every chairman in that league would spend £80m if it guaranteed them promotion.

 

No it doesn't it just proves that club is rotten to the core.

In general money buys success. To suggest otherwise is frankly ridiculous. It's been borne out Year on Year for god knows how long. The clubs who generate the most money and spend the most money do the best. It's the same with most things in a capitalist world.

Of course there are anomalies like villa, Leicester etc but come on we have bought the league. Who gives a ****. You still have to do other things right but you need money.

 

Have to disagree.

Money doesn't buy success. If it were that simple everyone and anyone would spend and achieve success. And there are so many Clubs who have spent unwisely and would disprove your point, a la Leeds, Portsmouth etc.

Money is relevant but it is only one of a number of factors which collectively a successful team has combined to become successful. To paraphrase you to suggest otherwise is simply being economic with the truth. Money obviously helps but there are a lot of other factors which play a varying role as to whether success is achieved and have to be got right before success is achieved.

That alos does however confirm your comment as to how rotten to the core some clubs are.

 

The bottom line is though that in general the biggest spenders achieve the highest positions. There are plenty who manage to **** it up. However if you spend the money sensibly and have the general structure in place then the money will buy you success.

Put it this way, it is a hell of a lot easier to achieve success through spending and having a decent manager than it is to spend nothing but have a great manager. Jesus as a Newcastle supporter we know this better than most. It is almost impossible to judge any of our managers under Ashley accurately because they have all been stunted by lack of spend. The exceptions being Rafa and McClaren. One was an abject failure and the other has so far done a decent job.

 

I don't give a monkeys what any of these other Championship fans are saying.

Lets just get out of this bastard division as soon as and let them have it to themselves

 

I dearly want us to go up. I fear for the fall-out next season if we don't.

But it's been an interesting season for us in this division. I admit that we've got few championship clubs' fans who like us - many are jealous as hell that we're "utterly loaded" and get massive gates home and also away.

It's reassuring to be heading in the right direction, with a good leader, even in this present circumstance.

I think the positives outweigh the negatives.

 

What we spend is nothing

 

Let the beelers beel.
**** em.

 

Money doesn't guarantee anything, but teams that spend more money are always more likely to finish above and do better than those that don't spend because they have better players.

You've invested that money you got from Gini & Sissoko really well though. Ritchie & Gayle being the 2 key players who are both Prem quality (never know why Gayle never got more game time at Palace, he always looked a threat with his pace). Add in Shelvey, Lascelles and have a solid spine that would fit into most mid table Prem clubs.

When talking about money, it's not just transfer fees though. Wages are a key one, not many Champ clubs could afford to pay the sums that you're probably paying those players.

 

I agree and footballs just a pecking order basically, so all these angry pigeons need to think about the pigeons beneath them and feel lucky they're getting any bread at all.

 

I hope we stay in the Championship for ever because I get more erections than I ever did in the Premier League.

 

That's the viagra Jim.

 

Can't argue with the profit line

Playing Devil's Advocate most teams couldn't have afforded Ritchie or Gayle as they wouldn't have had the trading assets in the first place

But who cares?

Look at Leicester
Look at Burnley's promotion 2/3 years back

It can be done with less funds if you spend better, so while more money is an advantage, it isn't game over

 

They were about £12m each or thereabouts, as I said above, Championship signings are rising in price massively - Costa to Wolves for £13m, Boro signing Rhodes while in the Champ for £10m+. It's incorrect to say we've just come in and splashed the cash like no one else can, because nowadays in the Champ money is much bigger, yes clubs like Burton and Barnsley obviously can't make huge signings, but the likes of Brighton, Fulham, Sheff Wed, Norwich, Villa, all have access to big funds.

It's all about structure, managerial tactics and a good team ethic - we spent big with Souness but got nowhere cos he was a crap manger, Chelsea had some of the world's best players and one of the world's best managers in Mourinho's last season with them, but it was a disaster because the players didn't respect.

Money helps a lot, but it is never the be all and end all of success.

 

At least they won't have to worry about Sunderland buying the league next season