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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    I'd be all for identity cards (partly because I don't have a driving license). Wasn't it Theresa May that scrapped the idea? What a fine Home Secretary she was.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/may/27/theresa-may-scrapping-id-cards
     
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  3. TheBigDipper

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    We don't need ID cards to sort out double voting. Just cross check the electoral register at a national level for the same person appearing more than once. There's already bound to be something out there which can uniquely identify people. We all get sent voting cards - so just producing that should be enough for the election officials.
     
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  4. GoldhawkRoad

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    Even that's poor though. If a fraudster knows someone is not going to vote, they can go along to the electoral station and claim to be that person - a check on the register won't help. Voting cards - in blocks of flats, mail is often left in unlocked boxes for collection by the addressee. I've seen with my own eyes someone removing Party literature from each box and destroying it (North London in the 1970's), so what's to stop someone stealing voting cards?

    An ID card could have multiple uses, including help with benefits, bank fraud etc. Sadly fraud of all kinds is rife now. The Old England of the 1930's when everything was done on trust has long gone.
     
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    Perhaps individuals would be less inclined to commit electoral fraud if the political parties played by the electoral rules too.
     
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  6. East Herts Rangers

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    You said it was students carrying out this scam, now I know there are mature students, but for these purposes lets assume they are of the younger generation. By raising the voting age to 40 we eliminate the cheating little feckers at a stroke ?
    Who mentioned Churchill ? I was referring to my old Jamaican matey from the All Saints rd.
     
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    It's not registering in two place which is a problem its the people who vote in both. I would think its a very small amount.
     
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  8. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    no need for id cards
    get everyone microchipped at birth
    and a gps locator as well
    and take a dna sample

    if you have nothing to hide etc etc etc
     
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  9. sb_73

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    Looking forward to the outrage on here when the list of 96 BBC 'artistes' paid over £150k per annum is released in a few minutes. Personally, I'm surprised it's only 96 people, but people employed on shows made by independent production houses may not count.

    Having looked at it there is some really weird stuff in there. I don't care what the licence payers pays to these people but am confused as to why Sarah Montague doesn't even get £150k (presumably, as she's not on the list) whereas all her fellow Today presenters get at least £250k. I don't think John Humphrys additional sitting down on Mastermind ('money for old rope' - his comment) really merits a minimum of a £500k pay differential with Montague. Odd.
     
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  10. stanleyparkerbowles

    stanleyparkerbowles Well-Known Member

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    Does no one earn even 70% as much as SWP did for us?
     
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  11. Uber_Hoop

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    At least we should see some significant Year-on-year savings in 12 months' time when they reveal the new Doctor's remuneration. :)
     
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  12. Bwood_Ranger

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    £400k for some bloke off Casualty!
     
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    BBC take the fkn piss full of repeats n fk all decent sport!!
     
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  14. Tramore Ranger

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    For the price of a cup of coffee a week you get BBC 1, BBC 2, BBC 4 plus a 24 hour News Channel, God knows how many National and Local Radio stations, Website etc. Pretty good value tbh, mind not sure Chris Evans is worth his salary but some might think he is.....
     
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    Nothing worth watching imo especially at wkends
     
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    Chris Evans is a willy flashing twat.
     
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    For some reason that made me laugh out loud.
     
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    I'm here to serve.
     
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  19. sb_73

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    Rise in pension age is rough news to those 39-45 year olds who will be affected. It's also an old fashioned answer to the problem, which assumes in 20 years time the world of work will look very similar to now, and we will be relying on the bulk of working age people being in work and paying tax to pay the pensions to the elderly. I strongly suspect that won't be the case, we will need a completely different model as fewer and fewer people are in work due to automation etc.

    On 'thought for the day' the religious bloke quoted statistics saying that life expectancy for men has risen from 52 to 80 since 1918. Of course it was low in 1918, a million military aged men had just been killed. This misuse of statistics so caught my attention that I didn't listen to the rest of his lecture.

    Sarah Montague sounding very in control and slightly ironic this morning on the Today programme, sitting next to Mishal Hussein who earns at least £100k more than her.

    She has just interviewed 'Dr' Liam Fox, allowed to talk in public again since his mysterious disappearance during the election campaign. Foxy was telling us how brilliant everything will be under WTO rules, and then told a big lie, that it is impossible not to be in the EU but to be in the Single Market and Customs Union. Norway, Iceland and Leichenstein are exactly that. Montague didn't spot the lie. Maybe that's why she doesn't earn as much as the others. Fox, who was busily and confidently predicting the future, then said it was impossible to predict the future when asked how long he and Theresa May would be hanging around stinking out the place.
     
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  20. kiwiqpr

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    dear googlestan
    what was life expectancy like in 1913
    cheers
    lazykiwi
     
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